#BCSM transcript

Healthcare Social Media Transcript

From: Mon Jul 09 18:00:00 PDT 2012
To: Mon Jul 09 19:15:00 PDT 2012

What is #BCSM? Who were the influencers during this time period? #BCSM analytics


Healthcare Conference  - Healthcare Tweet Chats  -  Healthcare Analytics

drattai
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RT @stales: 1 minute until #bcsm
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@stales Fingers are getting warmed up! #bcsm
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RT @stales: 1 minute until #bcsm
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RT @apdolan: RT @stales: 1 minute until #bcsm
stales
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GOOD EVENING #bcsm
drattai
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@jackiefox12 we'll miss you Jackie! And really, not one uncalled for comment? Sounds like you've got great family and friends! #bcsm
stales
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Everyone take a moment to introduce yourself and we'll get started shortly! #bcsm
stales
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Good evening @drattai!! #bcsm
stales
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@chemobrainfog hello, hello! #bcsm
drattai
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hi everyone! Deanna Attai, breast surgeon from LA, co-moderating with @stales #bcsm
dianeradfordmd
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@stales @DrAttai Hi Diane Radford here, breast surgeon from St. Louis #bcsm
jenniferalhasa
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Hi, everyone! So excited to join you tonight! I am a survivor & Cancer Coach. Can't wait to share in the energy with you! #BCSM
drattai
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@dianeradfordmd Hi Diane - glad you could join us - hope summer is going well #bcsm
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#bcsm Good evening all! Jennie Grimes, stage 4 fighter in Denver.
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Hello Everyone! @DrAttai @stales @kimwhit @dianeradfordmd @chemobrainfog :) Looking forward to more people arriving too! #bcsm
rsm2800
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Hi all. Dr. Bob Miller, breast ca oncologist Johns Hopkins. Gonna sit back & listen since I've not been on the receiving end... #bcsm
drattai
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@JenniferAlhasa thanks for joining us, Jennifer - energy is one thing this group has plenty of! #bcsm
bcsisterhood
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Brenda Coffee, breast cancer advocate San Antonio, TX. #BCSM
chemobrainfog
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@jackiefox12 You are a serious anomaly!!! I'll give you some of my stupid remarks to call your very own! #bcsm
stales
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Hi everyone, I'm Alicia 3x cancer survivor (hodgkin's and breast cancer) Co-moderating with @drattai tonight. #bcsm
teresamli
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Good evening #bcsm
rsm2800
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…but I've heard a few doozies in my time #bcsm
drattai
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@jenniegrimes welcome to the chat, Jennie #bcsm
stales
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Tonight - @jodyms is off, at a cancer event. We will miss her! #bcsm
talkabouthealth
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Murray here from @TalkAboutHealth Cancer Q&A and support. #bcsm
nancyspoint
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hello all. Nancy here. Educator, blogger, advocate two yrs post dx. #bcsm
drattai
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@BCSisterhood @chemobrainfog glad you could both join us #bcsm
stales
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Great to see some new faces tonight - and the usual crew too! #bcsm
brandie185
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Hello all. Brandie from Chicago here. #bcsm
drattai
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@rsm2800 welcome! Hope you're back to normal, with power! #bcsm
chemobrainfog
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@talkabouthealth Hi Murray!! #bcsm
dianeradfordmd
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@DrAttai, very well. Just back from a week in Mexico! #bcsm
miamicrime
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#bcsm sending everyone love from Miami
nancyspoint
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Go Jody! Yes we will miss her here tho. RT @stales: Tonight - @jodyms is off, at a cancer event. We will miss her! #bcsm
davidkroll
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Hi folks. Cancer natural product drug researcher and son of 27-yr breast cancer survivor. #bcsm
socflyny
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Greetings from NYC (and apologies to my tweep followers at large for the higher tweet volume next hour) #bcsm
drattai
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@NancysPoint @Brandie185 @talkabouthealth great to see you all #bcsm
feistybluegecko
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I'm Philippa, Scot based in Yangon, currently in Bangkok for med reasons, blogger and stage 3 #bcsm
bcsisterhood
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Glad you & @stales are holding down the fort & AnneMarie's home from her trip. RT @DrAttai: @BCSisterhood @chemobrainfog #BCSM
drattai
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@dianeradfordmd sounds fantastic #bcsm
miamicrime
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#bcsm I'm struggling with emotional eating after treatment.
nancyspoint
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@feistybluegecko so glad you could make it! #bcsm
stales
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@feistybluegecko hello! #bcsm
bcsisterhood
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@davidkroll 27 year survivor! Give your mom a great big hug from us. #BCSM
chemobrainfog
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AnneMarie from New York, 5 yrs post tx, now blogging and advocating for change. This is a great start! #bcsm
teresamli
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Good evening #BCSM
talkabouthealth
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Hi @Brandie185 @rsm2800 @miamicrime @BCSisterhood @NancysPoint @davidkroll @ABHuret @feistybluegecko @jenniegrimes #bcsm
miamicrime
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#bcsm i want chocolate all the time.
stales
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Okay, tonight we're talking about "The Cancer Conversation" AKA --> People Say the Darnest Things!! #bcsm
chemjobber
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RT @davidkroll: Hi folks. Cancer natural product drug researcher and son of 27-yr breast cancer survivor. #bcsm
talkabouthealth
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@ChemoBrainfog you are the best :) #bcsm
jenniferalhasa
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For sure! RT @BCSisterhood: @davidkroll 27 year survivor! Give your mom a great big hug from us. #BCSM
chemobrainfog
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@feistybluegecko Hey Philippa... sorry to see you are in the hospital. BIG hugs xoxo #bcsm
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@DrAttai Yes, finally, thnx. It took 6d for @awolff to get his back on. Lovely night in B'more 79 degrees & not too much humidity #bcsm
brandie185
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@DrAttai @talkabouthealth good evening! #bcsm
brandie185
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RT @stales: Okay, tonight we're talking about "The Cancer Conversation" AKA --> People Say the Darnest Things!! #bcsm
bcsisterhood
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Nancy & Philippa, so great to see you both. RT @NancysPoint: @feistybluegecko so glad you could make it! #BCSM
drattai
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@miamicrime thanks for joining us tonight #bcsm
brandie185
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We should make a book out of the stories we'll end up sharing tonight! #bcsm
nickdawson
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Thats the way! Wow MT @rsm2800: Dr. Bob Miller, breast ca oncologist Johns Hopkins. Gonna listen since I’ve not been on receiving end #bcsm
stales
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First question is coming up! #bcsm
nic_mclean
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RT @stales: Okay, tonight we're talking about "The Cancer Conversation" AKA --> People Say the Darnest Things!! #bcsm
drattai
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@feistybluegecko Phillipa sending love and support #bcsm
socflyny
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This topic could have it's own conference! #bcsm
drattai
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RT @Brandie185: We should make a book out of the stories well end up sharing tonight! #bcsm
nancyspoint
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@BCSisterhood good to see you as well. #bcsm
bcsisterhood
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What! hospital! Oh, not! I missed that! RT @chemobrainfog: @feistybluegecko #BCSM
chemobrainfog
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YES INDEED! RT @Brandie185: We should make a book out of the stories well end up sharing tonight! #bcsm
jenniferalhasa
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Woohoo! :) RT @drattai: @JenniferAlhasa thanks for joining us, Jennifer - energy is one thing this group has plenty of! #bcsm
talkabouthealth
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Yes, we love you! RT @DrAttai: @feistybluegecko Phillipa sending love and support #bcsm
stales
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Q1: What are the most memorable things people said to you when your were diagnosed or in treatment? #bcsm
stylewithclass
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Isn't that the truth! "@Brandie185 We should make a book out of the stories we'll end up sharing tonight! #bcsm
chemobrainfog
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You know it!!! RT @ABHuret: This topic could have its own conference! #bcsm
stylewithclass
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Just wanted to say a quick hello. Might lurk a bit but am a bit tired after annual exam today...#BCSM
miamicrime
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For those who don't know #bcsm is a group called breast cancer social media. Mon. 9 - 10 pm.
drattai
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RT @stales: Q1: What are the most memorable things people said to you when your were diagnosed or in treatment? #bcsm
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@Brandie185 that's so funny! I wanted to turn a blogpost abt this into an ebook & donate funds. #bcsm
stales
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ROCK STAR! RT @rsm2800: Dr. Miller, breast ca oncologist Johns Hopkins. Gonna listen since I’ve not been on receiving end #bcsm
stales
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@StylewithClass hope all went well today. #bcsm
drattai
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@StylewithClass great to see you, Stephanie - hope everything is ok #bcsm
socflyny
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A1 "My aunt/mother/cousin had it and she died" (nominee for MOST unhelpful) #bcsm
chemobrainfog
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Q1 "good cancer" "boob job" "mild chemo" (because I didn't lose my hair, just my brain) #bcsm
stylewithclass
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@DrAttai Thanks, Dr. Attai. Met w/ new BC surg for annual exam....went very well. #BCSM
nancyspoint
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Love a good listener! RT @stales: ROCK STAR! RT @rsm2800: Dr. Miller, breast ca oncologist Johns Hopkins. Gonna listen since I’ve no #bcsm
stylewithclass
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@stales thanks - all went well....just emotional overload #typical #BCSm
jenniferalhasa
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A1: "If they can make a penis they can make a boob." #BCSM
bcsisterhood
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Woman w/big breasts wanted 2 give me her tissue, my surgeon said it wasn't Jello we could transfer from 1 Tupperware bowl to another! #BCSM
brandie185
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A1: Some1 asked if I had a mastectomy. I said yes. She said (staring at my chest) "but you look like you still have boobs!" #bcsm
davidkroll
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RT @miamicrime: For those who don't know #bcsm is a group called breast cancer social media. Mon. 9 - 10 pm.
nancyspoint
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Q1 "If you're going to get cancer, at least you got the good kind." Heard that one more than once... #bcsm
pinkribbonwendi
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@stales I had a lady tell me "at least u had the good kind of cancer" (there's a GOOD KIND?!?) #bcsm
stylewithclass
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I could write a book on what people said to me: 1st DX: 'well, u didn't have 'real' cancer b/c u didn't need chemo.' No comment! #BCSM
chemobrainfog
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Sending you giant hugs. RT @miamicrime: #bcsm i want chocolate all the time. #bcsm
stales
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Q1 recap: so, we've heard: "You got the good cancer", "You don't look sick", "Gee, my friend had BC and she died" ...... What else? #bcsm
stylewithclass
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@Pinkribbonwendi @stales I had that same comment too - "the good one" OY. #BCSM
nancyspoint
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@Pinkribbonwendi Yep heard that one too. #bcsm
socflyny
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A1 Not to be overshadowed by "Well, at least you have the "good" kind of cancer". #HUH?! #bcsm
chemobrainfog
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@StylewithClass ARGGG #bcsm
pinkribbonwendi
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@stales I've had friends whose family/friends have actually expressed fear of catching cancer! #bcsm
brandie185
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A1 I was asked several times "So, um, did you, you know, lose hair EVERYWHERE?" Um, yes, b/c I want to talk about my pubic hair thanks #bcsm
chemobrainfog
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@stales Boob job!!! #bcsm
bcsisterhood
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Right! Pinkribbonwendi @stales I had a lady tell me "at least u had the good kind of cancer" (there's a GOOD KIND?!?) #bcsm #BCSM
yvonnewatterson
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Q1.but you look just like ... well, you. #bcsm
stales
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RT @Pinkribbonwendi: @stales Ive had friends whose family/friends have actually expressed fear of catching cancer! #bcsm
jedipd
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Hard-hitting #bcsm folks today including @DrAttai @rsm2800 @dianeradfordmd @stales All in great hands.
socflyny
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A1: "Well at least you'll have a fabulous rack when you're done". <steam smoking from ears> #bcsm
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@talkabouthealth @DrAttai @chemobrainfog @BCSisterhood Tks so much, been a rough time. but hey, no need to rush to work and miss #bcsm ;)
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RT @DrAttai: Tonight on #BCSM - The Cancer Conversation - things people say and how to respond 9pm Eastern / 6pm Pacific cc @jodyms @sta ...
nancyspoint
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Hubby was point blank asked, "So did they have to take 'em both off?" He was stunned. #bcsm
drattai
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@JediPD glad you could join us - we're talking about "things people say" #bcsm
stales
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q1: first day back to work after double mast w/ no recon: co-worker looked at me and said "what happened to your chest?" #bcsm
stylewithclass
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And of course I am sure we all heard this one: "You don't look sick" - #BCSM
drattai
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Oh, wow - I thought I heard it all but you guys have had to deal with some real jerks! #bcsm
bcsisterhood
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@stales I've talked to several Hispanic husbands who think they can catch cancer from their wives. #BCSM
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A1 one very good friend "oh but they have really fine tuned chemo these days so it is so much easier" aaaarghhh! #bcsm
brandie185
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A1: Weirdest thing: someone I had just met said "Well if you die and your dd needs someone to talk to, she can call me." Umm, WTF? #bcsm
chemobrainfog
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I'm just going to say this: I am going to alternate between laughing hysterically and wanting to smash my laptop #bcsm
rsm2800
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RT @chemobrainfog: I'm just going to say this: I am going to alternate between laughing hysterically and wanting to smash my laptop #bcsm
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RT @stylewithclass: And of course I am sure we all heard this one: "You don't look sick" - #BCSM
teamr0xy
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RT @stales: Okay, tonight we're talking about "The Cancer Conversation" AKA --> People Say the Darnest Things!! #bcsm
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RT @chemobrainfog: Im just going to say this: I am going to alternate between laughing hysterically and wanting to smash my laptop #bcsm
pinkribbonwendi
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@stales First time I went without my wig I had a customer scream "WHAT DID U DO TO YOUR HAIR!?!" me: "Got Cancer!" (she shut up) #bcsm
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@Brandie185 OMG.... Send that person to me, I'll kick their ass for you.... #bcsm
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RT @chemobrainfog: Im just going to say this: I am going to alternate between laughing hysterically and wanting to smash my laptop #BCSM
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RT @brandie185: A1: someone I had just met said "Well if you die and your dd needs someone to talk to, she can call me." Umm, WTF? #bcsm
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@BCSisterhood there are definitely a lot of cultural biases / misconceptions - lots of room for education #bcsm
miamicrime
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#bcsm I have been offered healing light by people who believe they can channel it and give it off with their hands
brandie185
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I hate to say it, but I looked like shit. And so I never heard the you don't look sick. I heard the opposite. Blech #bcsm
drattai
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@chemobrainfog don't smash the laptop!! We need your input! #bcsm
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or the suggestion that it must be my fault in some way ... "Oh, didn't you go for your mammograms?" #bcsm
brandie185
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@chemobrainfog I know. Isn't that crazy? I wouldn't even think that, let alone say it! #bcsm
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A1 one of my colleagues was astounded I had breast cancer, as married women don't get it - cultural aspect #bcsm
chemobrainfog
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ARG RT @miamicrime: #bcsm I have been offered healing light by people who believe they can channel it and give it off with their hands #bcsm
stylewithclass
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I got my wig b4 losing my hair....cried when I arrived: 87 yr old volunteer said: "when u compose yourself, come get me" #heartless #BCSM
pinkribbonwendi
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@stales forgot to introduce myself. I'm coming up on my 6th cancerversary & founded a BC support group. #bcsm
chemobrainfog
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@DrAttai :) TY! #bcsm
socflyny
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A1 It really upset me when people said they would pray for me. It made me think they knew something I didn't ... #bcsm
stales
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RT @Pinkribbonwendi: @stales forgot to introduce myself. Im coming up on my 6th cancerversary & founded a BC support group. #bcsm
drattai
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MT @Pinkribbonwendi 1st time I went w/o my wig I had a customer scream "WHAT DID U DO TO YOUR HAIR!?!" me: "Got Cancer!" (she shut up) #bcsm
rsm2800
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RT @ABHuret: A1 It really upset me when people said they would pray for me. It made me think they knew something I didn't ... #bcsm
bcsisterhood
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Before a friend of mine died from breast cancer, someone told her she hadn't prayed hard enough! #BCSM
drattai
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RT @feistybluegecko: A1 one of my colleagues was astounded I had breast cancer, as married women dont get it - cultural aspect #bcsm
stales
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RT @DrAttai: @BCSisterhood there are definitely a lot of cultural biases / misconceptions - lots of room for education #bcsm
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RT @ABHuret: A1 It really upset me when people said they would pray for me. It made me think they knew something I didnt ... #bcsm
brandie185
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A1: Someone said, upon hearing the news "So. You believe in God, right? Because I don't want to think about you going to hell." #bcsm
nancyspoint
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Oh my! RT @miamicrime: #bcsm I have been offered healing light by people who believe they can channel it #bcsm
drattai
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@StylewithClass wow... #bcsm
socflyny
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Like I could 'pray' it away ... (no offense to anyone's religious beliefs, of course) #bcsm
chemobrainfog
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That is one I hate most. RT @BCSisterhood: Before a friend of mine died from breast cancer, someone told she hadnt prayed hard enough! #bcsm
stales
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Q1: drumrolll..... shittiest comment to me ever: about to get first chemo, nurse can't find vein to get started, and says........ 1/2 #bcsm
brandie185
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{I also feel I need to add, all these strang things were said by people NOT close to me. They were, thankfully, wonderful} #bcsm
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then there are the people who say "I just know you'll beat this." What would they say if they thought I wouldn't ... #bcsm
talkabouthealth
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UGH! RT @BCSisterhood: Before a friend of mine died from breast cancer, someone told her she hadnt prayed hard enough! #bcsm
teamr0xy
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Try being the pregnant bald chic in the chemo room or dr office. I always got questions & comments but most were positive. #bcsm
stylewithclass
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@DrAttai it blew my mind....my parents were with me. I was floored. I wasn't concerned about losing my hair..but still digesting DX #BCSM
drattai
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@yvonnewatterson sort of like first question to lung cancer patient - did you smoke- trying to find an answer but really placing blame #bcsm
stales
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Q1: "If you just calm down, chemo would be alot easier. i don't know why you're all worked up" 2/2 REALLY? #bcsm
jenniegrimes
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#bcsm "Wait, the breast cancer spread to your hip?! Does that mean another boob is growing there?" really?!?
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I think most people say what they say from discomfort, to make themselves feel better. Most are not trying to be offensive or mean. #BCSM
chemobrainfog
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@AdamsLisa and @ RennPatterson just both wrote excellent blogs about the prayer thing and "cope not hope" #bcsm
debmthomas
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Q1 after my mastect my 'friend' asked me, "So, do you feel lopsided?" (I swear it's the truth) #bcsm
socflyny
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A1 Another winner: "You must not have eaten enough (fill in the blank)". Cause we all know about the weekly headlines! #bcsm
stales
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ouch. RT @BCSisterhood: Before a friend of mine died from breast cancer, someone told her she hadnt prayed hard enough! #bcsm
stales
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RT @DrAttai: sort of like first question to lung cancer patient - did you smoke- trying to find an answer but really placing blame #bcsm
drattai
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@Brandie185 sometimes the comments from strangers are more compassionate #bcsm
stylewithclass
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Ok...sorry to leave, definitely on breast cancer overload today...so, logging out.....thinking of you all. Take good care. #BCSM
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RT @abhuret: A1 Another winner: "You must not have eaten enough (fill in the blank)". Cause we all know about the weekly headlines! #bcsm
stales
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RT @abhuret: A1 Another winner: "You must not have eaten enough (fill in the blank)". Cause we all know about the weekly headlines! #bcsm
stales
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unreal! RT @debmthomas: Q1 after my mastect my 'friend' asked me, "So, do you feel lopsided?" (I swear it's the truth) #bcsm
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@yvonnewatterson How about those that say "keep fighting, fight harder" As though you are choosing to do something different!? #bcsm
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@stales I can't RT that but OMG.... #bcsm
socflyny
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RT @yvonnewatterson then there are the people who say "I just know you'll beat this." What would they say if they thought I wouldn't #bcsm
brandie185
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A1: How about the people who are "chemo is poison they give just to make money. Don't get it." #bcsm
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@debmthomas Lordy, that's kinda like mine, (did they take em both off?) #bcsm
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Q1 people always commented on my hair as it grew back in, guess they figured it was a 'safe' topic? #bcsm
yvonnewatterson
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I have found the kindness of strangers, this group included, has helped immeasurably. #bcsm
chemobrainfog
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@StylewithClass Love to you, Stephanie!!! #bcsm
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Nurse from Hell when I told her I was severely allergic to pain med she was giving me: "Well let's hope it doesn't kill you." #BCSM
stales
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MT @jenniferalhasa I think most people <speak> from discomfort, to make themselves feel better. Most arent trying to be offensive/mean #BCSM
stales
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RT @jenniegrimes: #bcsm "Wait, the breast cancer spread to your hip?! Does that mean another boob is growing there?" really?!?
debmthomas
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yikes! “@NancysPoint: @debmthomas Lordy, that's kinda like mine, (did they take em both off?) #bcsm
drattai
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RT @stales Q1: "If you just calm down, chemo would be alot easier. i don't know why you're all worked up" 2/2 REALLY? #bcsm
stales
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@chemobrainfog yup. needless to say, I never saw that nurse ever again. #bcsm
chemobrainfog
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And then, there is a cure in a lab somewhere. You know that, right? UMMMM, not a great idea to share such grassy knoll stupidity. #bcsm
drattai
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@jenniegrimes wow again - lots of wow's tonight! #bcsm
feistybluegecko
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so true - the kindness of strangers and support online balances the goofs of many #bcsm
nancyspoint
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Now, of course, i hear it's over, right? things are back to normal, right? so comments keep coming. #bcsm
brandie185
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A1 "I was watching Doctor Oz. If you just drink green smoothies, you'll be fine!" Yeah. 100 bucks that's not how he'd treat his cancer #bcsm
talkabouthealth
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So many misconceptions! RT @ABHuret "You must not have eaten enough (fill in the blank)" Cause we all know about the weekly headlines! #bcsm
drattai
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RT @feistybluegecko: so true - the kindness of strangers and support online balances the goofs of many #bcsm
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@stales I would have made her cement shoes for you. :) #bcsm
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Agree but they also don't think.RT @jenniferalhasa I think most people speak from discomfort, arent trying to be offensive/mean #BCSM
stales
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RT @chemobrainfog there is a cure in a lab somewhere. You know that, right? not a great idea to share such grassy knoll stupidity. #bcsm
pinkribbonwendi
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@stales REALLY?!? All worked up, huh? Hope you reported to the Doc! #bcsm
stales
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RT @NancysPoint: Now, of course, i hear its over, right? things are back to normal, right? so comments keep coming. #bcsm
brandie185
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@JenniferAlhasa I agree. Which is why I usually just smile and nod to people. I think they mean well. #bcsm
nancyspoint
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Absolutely! RT @feistybluegecko: so true - the kindness of strangers and support online balances the goofs of many #bcsm
stales
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yay! RT @yvonnewatterson: I have found the kindness of strangers, this group included, has helped immeasurably. #bcsm
kimwhit
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@JenniferAlhasa yes I think it's ignorance, discomfort, fear #bcsm
rsm2800
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Some ppl are inappropriate/awkward b/c they think they "aren't allowed" to use a little humor. But sensitive use of humor helpful #bcsm
chemobrainfog
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@Brandie185 Girlfriend, that's so true and I can't RT on stupid tweet chat but yes, SPOT ON abt the TV show docs. LOVE U! #bcsm
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RT @Brandie185: @JenniferAlhasa I agree. Which is why I usually just smile and nod to people. I think they mean well. #bcsm
drattai
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RT @Brandie185: @JenniferAlhasa I agree. Which is why I usually just smile and nod to people. I think they mean well. #bcsm
bcsisterhood
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"You'll look back on those as some of life's little bumps." Little? They weren't that little! #BCSM
jedipd
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Intelligence does not exist in a degree. Common sense is a rare sense, that's why ignorance speaks through stupid tones #bcsm
stales
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Another favorite stupid cancer comment: "Do you have unresolved anger issues? I hear that causes cancer?" #bcsm
socflyny
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A1 The medical segments & headlines are the WORST! Eat broccoli, soy, green tea, etc. Makes people think you must have caused it. #bcsm
stales
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RT @JediPD: Intelligence does not exist in a degree. Common sense is a rare sense, thats why ignorance speaks through stupid tones #bcsm
bcsisterhood
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Kindness far exceeds stupidity. RT @yvonnewatterson: I have found the kindness of strangers this group included helped immeasurably. #BCSM
pinkribbonwendi
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The discussion tonight in #bcsm is 1/2 making me laugh, 1/2 pissing me off! LOL #CancerSucks #ThingsPeopleSayToCancerPatients
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@rsm2800 YES! But if they would just let us lead for a second... so many times I was comforting those around me. #bcsm
stales
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@chemobrainfog log out and log back into tweet chat to get the RT function back. #bcsm
drattai
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MT @rsm2800 Some are inappropriate b/c they think they "aren't allowed" to use a little humor. But sensitive use of humor helpful #bcsm
wendy_nielsen
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RT @stales: Okay, tonight we're talking about "The Cancer Conversation" AKA --> People Say the Darnest Things!! #bcsm
brandie185
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Oh, I forgot, some1 told me picture the cancer as a baby & imagine rocking it and singing lullabies to it. It would go away then. #bcsm
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@BCSisterhood For sure! Always good to inform them about what might be better to say (like nothing in many cases!) #BCSM
drattai
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oh, my RT @stales Another favorite stupid cancer comment: "Do you have unresolved anger issues? I hear that causes cancer?" #bcsm
bcsisterhood
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I heard that one not long ago. People just don't think! RT@stales "Do you have unresolved anger issues? I hear that causes cancer?" #BCSM
miamicrime
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RT @stales: Another favorite stupid cancer comment: "Do you have unresolved anger issues? I hear that causes cancer?" #bcsm
chemobrainfog
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@Pinkribbonwendi I agree! I said that in the beginning. I KNEW it would be like that. PISSED OFF or LAUGHING! #bcsm
socflyny
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Common sense isn't! MT @stales: MT @JediPD: Intelligence doesn't exist in a degree. that's why ignorance speaks through stupid tones #bcsm
wendy_nielsen
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RT @BCSisterhood: "You'll look back on those as some of life's little bumps." Little? They weren't that little! #BCSM
brandie185
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Oh my fav: "Chemo is just a big money maker. Pay this guy 5000 a month and he'll heal you naturally!" Oh, cause that's cheaper! #bcsm
stales
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q1: And more wisdom: "Green smoothies cure cancer", "Pharma has 'the cure' but they're sitting on it just to make more money" #bcsm
jenniferalhasa
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♥ RT @drattai: RT @Brandie185: @JenniferAlhasa I agree. Which is why I usually just smile and nod to people. I think they mean well. #bcsm
chemobrainfog
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I love you. Thanks!! RT @stales: @chemobrainfog log out and log back into tweet chat to get the RT function back. #bcsm
wendy_nielsen
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I got "it's all in God's plan" a lot. And "if Lance Armstrong can do it, so can you." Ugh! #BCSM
yvonnewatterson
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Cancer confounds people, I think. But when people know better, they really do better so we need to keep educating families & friends. #bcsm
stales
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RT @Pinkribbonwendi: The discussion is 1/2 making me laugh, 1/2 pissing me off! LOL #CancerSucks #ThingsPeopleSayToCancerPatients #bcsm
rsm2800
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@chemobrainfog Agree. I had a 19 year old pt (not breast ca) who was more mature than his parents & did most of the comforting #bcsm
chemobrainfog
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"You have too much stress in your life" #bcsm
bcsisterhood
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It makes me crazy when people call me a cancer "victim." None of this group has a victim mentality, that's for sure. #BCSM
socflyny
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A1 And none of the comments are helpful b/c aside from those w BRCA, no one truly knows what caused it and that's all we want to know! #bcsm
feistybluegecko
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anger causes cancer? or cancer causes anger? hmmm i know which resonates more with me!!! #bcsm
brandie185
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RT @Pinkribbonwendi: The discussion is 1/2 making me laugh, 1/2 pissing me off! LOL #CancerSucks #ThingsPeopleSayToCancerPatients #bcsm
jenniferalhasa
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Amen to that! RT @yvonnewatterson: ...when people know better, they really do better so we need to keep educating families & friends. #BCSM
miamicrime
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#bcsm A paralegal and a makeup artist said i had to consume a fruit called Guanabana obsessively
drattai
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RT @BCSisterhood It makes me crazy when people call me a cancer "victim." None of this group has a victim mentality, that's for sure. #bcsm
nancyspoint
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RT @yvonnewatterson: Cancer confounds people, I think.when people know better, they do better so we need to keep educating #bcsm
teamr0xy
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Friends often joked about awesome boob job I would gain, which I have yet to get it. I've educated them well since then. #bcsm
talkabouthealth
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RT @rsm2800: @chemobrainfog Agree. I had a 19 year old pt (not breast ca) who was more mature than his parents & did most comforting #bcsm
chemobrainfog
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"God never gives us more than we can handle. You have strong shoulders" Umm, I have a stronger fist! #bcsm
lynnefavreau
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Lady trashes money grubbing pharma then relates her alternative compounds regamine at a cost of $14,000.yr !? I'll stick w/chemo. #bcsm
stales
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q1: brilliant piece of work from a social worker: "Now that you're done with treatment, what's next for you? Climbing Everest?" #bcsm
bcsisterhood
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@Wendy_Nielsen I don't believe God micro-manages our lives, although we can use adversity to learn from them. #BCSM
brandie185
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"Just stay positive and it will be fine." Oh, ok. I didn't know positive attitude was a known cure. #bcsm
teamr0xy
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@miamicrime No more amazing than you! We are all #strongwomen. #bcsm
pinkribbonwendi
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@stales TY for the hash tag. I keep forgetting! #bcsm
chemobrainfog
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Here's another goodie: "Cancer is a gift" #bcsm
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Here's to shining the light! RT @kimwhit: @JenniferAlhasa yes I think it's ignorance, discomfort, fear #bcsm
socflyny
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How about 'It will make you a better person' or 'it's a gift'. I'm sorry ... last I checked, Nordstrom wasn't accepting returns for BC #bcsm
brandie185
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@chemobrainfog If cancer is a gift, I want the receipt so I can return it =) #bcsm
wendy_nielsen
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@BCSisterhood the worst was that "God gave me cancer on purpose." #BCSM
drattai
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@stales so did you ever get to Everest?! I would think getting back to life would be more than an accomplishment enough! Jeez. #bcsm
ISophia3
RT @stales: Another favorite stupid cancer comment: "Do you have unresolved anger issues? I hear that causes cancer?" #bcsm
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Allow me to add one: "They have a cure but they just want to poison us and make money" (Conspiracy Theory #1) #bcsm
nancyspoint
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"the most impt thing is to stay positive." that one's hurtful. #bcsm
brandie185
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It's only hair! I have to bite my tongue from saying, oh, well, if it's only hair, shave yours off too =) #bcsm
teamr0xy
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How about this one: If anyone can handle this, it would be you. #bcsm
drattai
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@Pinkribbonwendi if you log into tweet chat it will add the hashtag automatically #bcsm
kimwhit
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can offer a "what not to say" list - so many of them http://t.co/kSTyYNKP #bcsm
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I agree! RT @Brandie185: @chemobrainfog If cancer is a gift, I want the receipt so I can return it =) #bcsm
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@BCSisterhood Re "victim" I was at a press conference once announcing cancer legislation w/ a state governor… #bcsm
brandie185
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@TeamR0XY Right. And it sounds like a compliment, and yet, it's not. #bcsm
socflyny
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@chemobrainfog you are officially freaking me out --- just tweeted the 'gift' comment! lol! XO #bcsm
jenniegrimes
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RT @Brandie185: @chemobrainfog If cancer is a gift, I want the receipt so I can return it =) #bcsm
pinkribbonwendi
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Amen! RT @chemobrainfog: "God never gives us more than we can handle. You have strong shoulders" Umm, I have a stronger fist! #bcsm
drattai
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if it were only that simple RT @NancysPoint "the most impt thing is to stay positive." that one's hurtful. #bcsm
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More q1 recaps and wisdom: "Cancer is the gift that keeps on giving" "You need to stay positive" "You're getting a free boob job" #bcsm
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Horrible! @Wendy_Nielsen @BCSisterhood the worst was that "God gave me cancer on purpose." #BCSM
chemobrainfog
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@ABHuret haha! #bcsm
rsm2800
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…who said he was "SO glad he could meet the cancer victims here." This was before he got recalled, ahem #bcsm
socflyny
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@Brandie185 @chemobrainfog Nordstrom isn't accepting returns or I certainly would have exchanged it for a pair of hot stilettos! #BCSM
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@BCSisterhood I agree!!! It too bad that we lack a language for the anything other than Victim or Survivor. #BCSM
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Good one! RT @Brandie185: It's only hair! I have to bite my tongue from saying, oh, well, if it's only hair, shave yours off too =) #bcsm
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RT@stales "Cancer is the gift that keeps on giving" "You need to stay positive" "You're getting a free boob job" #bcsm #BCSM
chemobrainfog
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@stales You are gonna need two hours to recap Q1. #bcsm
stales
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@DrAttai honestly! I told SW that all I wanted was a NAP. I wasn't climbing any mountains. I just got done w/ chemo - that was enuf #bcsm
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@DrAttai @BCSisterhood #bcsm No victim here for darn sure!!! Excellent point! We are the front lines to help others!
bcsisterhood
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@rsm2800 Glad to hear he "got" justice for that remark. #BCSM
stales
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epic. RT @TeamR0XY: How about this one: If anyone can handle this, it would be you. #bcsm
brandie185
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Snort. My "free" boob job cost so much that I hit max out of pocket medical expenses for my insurance last year. #bcsm
pinkribbonwendi
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RT @chemobrainfog: I agree! RT @Brandie185: @chemobrainfog If cancer is a gift, I want the receipt so I can return it =) #bcsm
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I hate cancer; it's not a gift. Another of life's supreme ironies is that were it not for cancer, I wouldn't be in this company. #bcsm #bcsm
drattai
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@stales naps are good! #bcsm
socflyny
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That whole 'positivity' thing makes my blood boil ... so our loved ones who died weren't positive enough? Don't get me started -- #bcsm
melee_me
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RT @chemobrainfog: I agree! RT @Brandie185: @chemobrainfog If cancer is a gift, I want the receipt so I can return it =) #bcsm
seattlemamadoc
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Great insight & wisdom from women streaming live right now with #bcsm hashtag.
lynnefavreau
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I really hated being told what a wonderful role model I was. Poster child for stoisism-NOT. #bcsm
chemobrainfog
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YES! RT @Cancer_Why_Me: @DrAttai @BCSisterhood No victim here for darn sure!!! Excellent point! We r the front lines to help others! #bcsm
brandie185
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I also dislike it when people say <so and so> lost his/her battle with cancer. Um. No. They didn't lose. It's not a win/lose thing. #bcsm