#WeSpeechies transcript

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From: Tue Sep 22 13:00:00 PDT 2015
To: Wed Sep 23 6:36:00 PDT 2015

What is #WeSpeechies? Who were the influencers during this time period? #WeSpeechies analytics


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Hello and welcome to #WeSpeechies Tuesday Chat. Tonight’s topic is Men in SLP/SLT & addressing the gender imbalance.
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#Language may be processed equally well in #both #hemispheres of the #brain... if it's whistled http://t.co/7TwcN6WlNP #wespeechies #bio
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I’d like to know who’s here with us? Are you tweeting? Silent reading? Say hello! #WeSpeechies
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RT @wespeechies: Hello and welcome to #WeSpeechies Tuesday Chat. Tonight’s topic is Men in SLP/SLT & addressing the gender imbalance.
bronwynhemsley
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@wespeechies didn’t you tweet something yesterday about glass elevator? #WeSpeechies @EmmaBarnesy
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RT @wespeechies: I’d like to know who’s here with us? Are you tweeting? Silent reading? Say hello! #WeSpeechies
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This is Russell Cross, one of @SpeechDudes hoping to be here for all of this #wespeechies chat - and hoping to remember to use the hashtag!
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@wespeechies I'm in bed (9pm. hardcore!) but will try my best to stay awake! #wespeechies
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@EmmaBarnesy yes please! #wespeechies
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@WeSpeechies - there you go then? you tweeted it yourself :-) (It’s a network) @EmmaBarnesy #WeSpeechies
bronwynhemsley
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@talkrunlearn goodnight Helen - maybe tweet your ideas in at the morning, but keep a tag on it as we still collect those up #WeSpeechies
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Just a reminder to all participants to put the #WeSpeechies hashtag into all of your tweets. This helps others to find you.
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Using #WeSpeechies also ensures that your comments will make it into the transcript of the chat.
bronwynhemsley
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@wespeechies lurkers will remain lurkers for a bit at the start so kicking off questions gets people going! #WeSpeechies
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The first question is coming. Can I remind everyone to tag your answers. ‘A1’ for ‘Q1’, ‘A2’ for ‘Q2’ & so on... #WeSpeechies
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Q1 What is your experience of the gender distribution of SLTs/SLPs in your area? Does any gender imbalance matter? #WeSpeechies
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RT @wespeechies: Q1 What is your experience of the gender distribution of SLTs/SLPs in your area? Does any gender imbalance matter? #WeSpeechies
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Apologies to our followers and #slpeeps who may feel twitter-bombed by me for the next hour as I take part in #wespeechies discussion
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@wespeechies I wonder where @NicoleByrne_UoN is on this fine rainy morning, I’m sure she’d have something to say! #WeSpeechies
bronwynhemsley
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@SpeechDudes :-) maybe they’ll have something to contribute, want to encourage any along to join in? (network helper) #WeSpeechies
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Thanks for joining Helen! Try to stay with us! @talkrunlearn #WeSpeechies
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@wespeechies I am "atypical" and work for an AAC company where we have about 15% men #wespeechies
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A1 All-female training, over 8 years of working worked with 1 male SLT but have met far more since being in academia #wespeechies
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@NicoleByrne_UoN Nik, I will say it once more ***add a tag*** to the chat - it helps people to see your tweet (non-followers!) #WeSpeechies
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I think that's a slightly liberal, roundabout use of my reference @BronwynHemsley! ;-) @EmmaBarnesy #WeSpeechies
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.@NicoleByrne_UoN Thanks for joining us! Your knowledge on #DiversitySP will be invaluable to this chat topic. #WeSpeechies
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@WeSpeechies did you see that important little word ‘may’ in my tweet and yesterday’s call for research too? :-) #WeSpeechies @EmmaBarnesy
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@wespeechies Good morning from sunny Sydney! #wespeechies
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@JonRoustonSLT Hi Jon, for every tweet in the chat you will need to remember to add the tag, a tiny but powerful thread joiner! #WeSpeechies
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@speechbloke Hi David, glad you could make this very important chat topic (thrilled at turn out frankly!) #WeSpeechies
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Welcome to chat @SpeechDudes 15% of how many, may I ask? And with AAC? Are you a "tech guy"!? #WeSpeechies
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My math was bad - it's closer to 20%! #wespeechies http://t.co/OpPZnWfJSn
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@speechbloke you get the sun? we get the coldest day so far this month! #WeSpeechies
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I did @BronwynHemsley! Noted! Just a bit of banter between #WeSpeechies curators! ;-) @EmmaBarnesy
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@hbogaardt Hi Hans, like @JonRoustonSLT and @NicoleByrne_UoN you get a ‘please add tag’ reminder! It is a must during a chat #WeSpeechies
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Please remember the #WeSpeechies tag everyone! & Remember to put ‘A1’ before your answer to ‘Q1’.
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@wespeechies A1: I think the proportion of male SLPs in AT and AAC may be higher than the general %ages #wespeechies
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Repeat of Question 1 - any more responses? ^bh #WeSpeechies https://t.co/pDVmySmIYZ
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Thanks for joining us despite competing priorities @JonRoustonSLT! Much appreciated! #WeSpeechies
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@SpeechDudes @wespeechies some evid males SLP go into specific areas e.g id previous $ & acute & TBI #WeSpeechies but yes AAC?? #DiversitySP
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@hbogaardt hope you’ll be curating for us one day so getting in early on the coaching element :-) #WeSpeechies
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@wespeechies A1 - Unsure, I've met a handful of others in neuro paeds and ALD. Current dept it's 33% but because I'm 1/3 #wespeechies
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Thanks for joining @speechbloke & @hbogaardt! I was conscious of making my chat slightly later for Aus #WeSpeechies colleagues to join.
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@wespeechies A1: If there are figures that show what % male SLPs are in AT/AAC versus general SLP pop please share! #wespeechies
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Q2 What factors do you think have contributed to the male/female gender imbalance in SLP/SLT? #WeSpeechies
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@JonRoustonSLT @wespeechies A1: So you are another of we "techy" SLPs who are drawn to a specific aspect of the profession #wespeechies
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@wespeechies #wespeechies A1. We'll never know if gender balance really matters. I don't care much about it. It has pros and cons.
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@NicoleByrne_UoN maybe promoting more #AugComm tech etc to potential students would attract more males @SpeechDudes #WeSpeechies
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@wespeechies Q1 There seem to be few private practice male SLPs in Sydney. At PP networking events, usually only 1 or 2 there #wespeechies
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@SpeechDudes @wespeechies Interesting point! Is there data to show certain areas (e.g. acq vs. dev) have more males? #wespeechies
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RT @wespeechies: Q2 What factors do you think have contributed to the male/female gender imbalance in SLP/SLT? #WeSpeechies
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@SpeechDudes @wespeechies not that I know of in a workforce sense #wespeechies lack of rigorous workforce data is an issue #DiversitySP
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@NicoleByrne_UoN cat woke me up at 3am so there you go, Equinox. @hbogaardt #WeSpeechies
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@NicoleByrne_UoN the answer to ever question about gender imbalance in SLP - a blind spot? avoidance? denial? #WeSpeechies @SpeechDudes
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@speechbloke @wespeechies #wespeechies I thniks most speech guys are in acute (my perception).
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@wespeechies A2: Historically it developed as a female-oriented profession and that's almost entrenched as a perception (1/2) #wespeechies
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@wespeechies #WeSpeechies they think its mostly working with kids, and most dont want that, as kids can be 'challenging'
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@hbogaardt my perception, more diversity in disability too and #AugComm (wondered about acute yesterday) #WeSpeechies @speechbloke
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@wespeechies A1 I think gender imbalance does matter, prof. should aim to represent diversity of client base: gender, relig etc #wespeechies
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@wespeechies A2: There is a tendency (perhaps) for men to avoid female-oriented professions? (2/2) #wespeechies
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@SpeechDudes @wespeechies also issues when reporting data such small # of male SLP can't conduct stat analysis :( #wespeechies #DiversitySP
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Can't say it bothers me either @hbogaardt! I've prepared a survey that asks if it's something that needs to be addressed or not!#WeSpeechies
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@wespeechies #WeSpeechies in my country even other professions have that in balance, such as PT & OT
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@Ali_Al_Saddah hi there! is this something you have heard/been told/read about or your own perception? #WeSpeechies
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@SpeechDudes like all ‘caring' professions - however others e.g. nursing have made some improvements (still has further to go) #WeSpeechies
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@wespeechies #wespeechies does survey also asks you 'do you think its a problem?' And 'do you care?! :))
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Do men in PP not engage w/wider or PP/SLP community @speechbloke? There's lit. to support gender imbalance leading to isolation #WeSpeechies
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Just a reminder to keep using the #WeSpeechies tag & ‘A2’ for answer to ‘Q2’ etc.
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Reminder to all to use the #WeSpeechies tag in the chat - your idea is worth sharing so help us to keep it (forever!) ^bh
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@JonRoustonSLT @SpeechDudes @wespeechies #wespeechies I think that male SLPs are more prone to end up in jobs where tech plays a role.
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@BronwynHemsley A2: Yes, other gender-biased professions do seem to have moved, perhaps slowly, to more equitable mix #wespeechies
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@BronwynHemsley @SpeechDudes many years (20+) talk about gender imbalance- e.g. many discussion papers @wespeechies (1/2) #wespeechies
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Any #WeSpeechies have date/references relating to males in certain areas/sectors of SLP? #WeSpeechies https://t.co/a8MwXilSk6
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A1. In my school, no male #wespeechies (certainly in last 17 years!). Met more in academia
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RT @NicoleByrne_UoN: @SpeechDudes @wespeechies not that I know of in a workforce sense #wespeechies lack of rigorous workforce data is an issue #DiversitySP
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@hbogaardt this may now be many of the jobs given growth in ICT and tele-practice/SIM #WeSpeechies @JonRoustonSLT @SpeechDudes @wespeechies
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@wespeechies Not that I've noticed. Sometimes I feel a little conspicuous when I walk into a room. May be a barrier for some. #wespeechies
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.@hbogaardt @speechbloke I work in acute setting myself. Only know of 1 other out of 6 in my male SLP network. #WeSpeechies
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@wespeechies A1: If not, it would be good for "someone" to gather such data! #wespeechies
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Any late joiners, don’t forget to say hello! You can go back & answer earlier question too! Would love to hear your thoughts! #WeSpeechies
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@SusanEbbels Hi Susan - always lovely to see a curator back for a chat! #WeSpeechies
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RT @JonRoustonSLT: @wespeechies A1 I think gender imbalance does matter, prof. should aim to represent diversity of client base: gender, relig etc #wespeechies
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@BronwynHemsley but maybe because I work in a rehab hospital #WeSpeechies
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@BronwynHemsley @SpeechDudes @wespeechies but never any movement past discussion. Big Q is what is next step? #DiversitySP #wespeechies (2)
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This ties in nicely with Q3 coming up @JonRoustonSLT! #WeSpeechies
talkrunlearn
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@wespeechies @hbogaardt Doesn't bother me either! But would we be concerned if males>females? #wespeechies
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@Ali_Al_Saddah remember that we need the tag added for people to see your tweet in a chat #WeSpeechies @speechbloke
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@wespeechies #wespeechies gender issue plays certainly a role during lunch discussions... Never EPL or Formula1 as topic. :))))
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@BronwynHemsley @SpeechDudes @wespeechies To change actually requires a co-ord & concerted effort on the part of ALL SLPs #wespeechies (2/2)
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@NicoleByrne_UoN Not enough men to form a pressure group ;) #wespeechies
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.@hbogaardt in so many words, yes! #WeSpeechies
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#WeSpeechies remember that tag :-) https://t.co/QEfsWLYHuj
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@SpeechDudes not doing too badly with Twitter as a connector (worldwide grows the numbers) #WeSpeechies @NicoleByrne_UoN
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I did my dissertation for my first masters on AAC too! @JonRoustonSLT @SpeechDudes #WeSpeechies
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@BronwynHemsley @SpeechDudes @wespeechies & SLP students BUT important Prof ass. MUST be drive e.g. change advertising, promo #wespeechies
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Q3 What might the benefits be to the people we serve in having access to a gender balanced SLT/SLP workforce? #WeSpeechies
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@wespeechies - A1 Massive gender imbalance can lead to causal sexism. #WeSpeechies
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@victoriawad hi Victoria, please remember the tag during the chat - it helps your non-followers to see what you are saying. #WeSpeechies ^bh
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@BronwynHemsley @NicoleByrne_UoN A concerted effort to promote prof. for men would need cash and coordination. Lots. #wespeechies
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@hbogaardt @wespeechies This is also my experience #WeSpeechies
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Possibly @hbogaardt @JonRoustonSLT @SpeechDudes! Even though I work in acute setting I am the 'go to' for all things techy. #WeSpeechies
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@wespeechies sorry - I should know that by now! Apologies #wespeechies
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@SpeechDudes women want cash and promotion too, yes? #WeSpeechies @NicoleByrne_UoN
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@NicoleByrne_UoN you (and male SLP/Ts drive the research agenda, that’s what’s next! :-) #WeSpeechies @SpeechDudes @wespeechies
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@SpeechDudes the expectation of #DiversitySP needs to come from ALL SLPs #wespeechies as we all need to acknowledge the benefits of contribn
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@wespeechies A3: Frankly, this one stumps me! If SLPs are good at the job, does it really matter? I don't know! #wespeechies
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A1 #WeSpeechies I only know three male SLTs and one of them is via Twitter ;) UniofEssex SLT dept head is male and rest of dept (6-8)is fem
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@wespeechies A3. My case load: 78% male, 22% female. Some parents have said they were looking for a male SLP for their son. #WeSpeechies
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Interesting point @talkrunlearn! By same logic, should men in SLP be concerned by proportion of females? @hbogaardt #WeSpeechies
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@SpeechDudes @wespeechies #wespeechies hear, hear! Its about quality if care, not gender.
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The story of my life @hbogaardt! Lol! #WeSpeechies
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@wespeechies #wespeechies A3, i think it benefits us as SLPs not the people we serve. we've had many difficulties with male adult patients..
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@BronwynHemsley @NicoleByrne_UoN Promoting the prof. in general needs cash; promoting to men specifically would need extra #wespeechies
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@speechbloke Yes, like some parents also want a speech pathologist who is a parent (another topic for another week perhaps!) #WeSpeechies
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Reminding once again to keep using the #WeSpeechies tag & ‘A3’ for answer to ‘Q3’, ‘A2’ for ‘Q2’, etc.
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@wespeechies A3 benefits - different experiences and perspectives, diversity! #wespeechies
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@BronwynHemsley @SpeechDudes @NicoleByrne_UoN on last weeks conference for #WeSpeechies working with 0-2 yrs there was NOT even one man!
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Thanks for joining @victoriawad! Be sure to go back and answer previous Q's if you have time please! #WeSpeechies
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@speechbloke I can see that as one reasonable reason for having more guys #wespeechies
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@hbogaardt this happens to females too - many people avoid/fear/don’t know ICT (no reference! #WeSpeechies @JonRoustonSLT @SpeechDudes
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@JonRoustonSLT @wespeechies #WeSpeechies q2 I agree w/Jon - and more BME SLTs needed! Colleague has research proposal into the latter
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@wespeechies #wespeechies My favourite lunch discussion last month was about the 'advantages of having a caesarian'. :))
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@wespeechies #WeSpeechies TBI patients or cognitively affected patients with our female SLPs, where I had to cont. the therapy
bronwynhemsley
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@Ali_Al_Saddah what sort of difficulties have you noticed? #WeSpeechies
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@wespeechies #WeSpeechies so we would benefit from SLP safety in the workplace
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@hbogaardt could look at Sue Balandin’s work on topics of meal break conversations. #WeSpeechies
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@wespeechies @hbogaardt If it's preventing them accessing training, being employed and promoted yes, but is this the case? #wespeechies
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#WeSpeechies https://t.co/AiK7Cl0yJT
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@wespeechies i'm joining in as well. I'm from Holland, SLT/SLP with special interest in the field of #AAC. #WeSpeechies - #lovemyjob
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@SpeechDudes @BronwynHemsley we have seen other education /health prof e.g. nursing increase no. male #wespeechies #DiversitySP
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Agreed @hbogaardt! But might some patients like to speak with someone who they can relate to? #WeSpeechies @SpeechDudes
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@wespeechies A3: I'm OK with lobbying for more dudes if we have good reasons. Otherwise we should lobby for more SLPs #wespeechies
bronwynhemsley
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@WeSpeechies have seen tweet discussions drive research agendas & publications #WeSpeechies @NicoleByrne_UoN @SpeechDudes
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Very important point @Prison_literacy! @SpeechDudes #WeSpeechies
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#WeSpeechies https://t.co/40sQhibvts
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@wespeechies @SpeechDudes #wespeechies i think most patients take it as a fact that health care is female driven and don't have issues
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@wespeechies since the rise of SLT women set the gender trend,it's understandably daunting to engage in anything as a minority #WeSpeechies
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@wespeechies @BronwynHemsley @NicoleByrne_UoN @SpeechDudes Me too! Count me in to help! #wespeechies
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Look forward to hearing more once moved beyond proposal phase @AnnabelCHodges! @jonroustonslt #WeSpeechies
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@SpeechDudes @BronwynHemsley I think big part is SLPs & ppl linked to SLP #wespeechies less likely to suggest SLP prospective prof to males
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Male SLP/Ts are risk takers (Shapiro, 1994) #WeSpeechies https://t.co/w1VCnvCr9H
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@talkrunlearn @wespeechies #wespeechies to be honest: I don't think so (with the usual exceptions, that I also personally experienced)
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@wespeechies @hbogaardt @SpeechDudes Agree. At the moment, over 90% of my adult clients are male. #WeSpeechies
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@wespeechies Hello! Maree from Florida, here. Just knocked off work. Looking forward to reading comments from tonight's chat. #WeSpeechies
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RT @wespeechies: A key question I want people's thoughts on this week is: Is it important to attract more men into SLP/SLT? #WeSpeechies
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@Ali_Al_Saddah Have encountered this where sometimes it is 'safer' for male SLP to work with pt with challenging behaviour. #WeSpeechies
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@wespeechies - A3 One area where I think more men could help is with offenders. Women are less likely to have contact 1/2 #WeSpeechies
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@SpeechDudes @wespeechies A3: type of therapy maybe important - where therapeutic relationship pivotal gender may be a factor? #wespeechies
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@BronwynHemsley #WeSpeechies flirting, loss of attention due to smell/attraction to the female, verbal abuse
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@MareeRichardson Hi Maree - glad you could make it -feel free to answer the questions from earlier just keep adding the tag :-) #WeSpeechies
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Reminding once again to keep using the #WeSpeechies tag & ‘A3’ for answer to ‘Q3’, etc.
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Welcome to #WeSpeechies chat! Share your thoughts with us! @GernaScholte
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@AnnabelCHodges #WeSpeechies I agree. adults understand me better and i feel more connected to them
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@SpeechDudes @wespeechies quick google scholar search, old article etc. but psychology have considered http://t.co/R5H9cZXWOW #wespeechies
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@AnnabelCHodges Hi Annabel - you need to remember to add the tag #WESpeechies to a chat - it helps everyone to see it and respond.
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RT @wespeechies: Please take this short survey on gender imbalance in SLP. There are 9 questions. Open until Fri 25th. #WeSpeechies https://t.co/GtMgIqZqah
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@wespeechies - A3 with justice system. When you add social background and race into mix it simply compounds problem. 2/2 #WeSpeechies
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Can you expand @hbogaardt? @talkrunlearn #WeSpeechies
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@wespeechies we're all human - some relate better to men, some to women #WeSpeechies
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@speechbloke @wespeechies @hbogaardt @SpeechDudes I guess it does matter then, for men who are looking for an SLT. #WeSpeechies
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Q4 What steps could be taken to further balance SLT/SLP as a profession? #WeSpeechies
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@hbogaardt @wespeechies @SpeechDudes ??wider diversity generally provide different opinions, experiences & ways of doing things #wespeechies
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@hbogaardt hi joining late from UK. converstn about birth not relevant to all female SLTs either! important not to generalise! #WeSpeechies
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@wespeechies oh pants I keep forgetting the #wespeechies bit - apologies!
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@wespeechies A1: No male SLTs/SLPs in my area. Perhaps some clients may have a gender preference, like with Doctors... #WeSpeechies
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@BronwynHemsley @hbogaardt @SpeechDudes hard to tell, if 97% of slt's female, likely that those who avoid IT will be female! #wespeechies
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.@SpeechDudes as discussed re: Shapiro (1994), I think this is central. Let's focus on raising profile of SLT generally also. #WeSpeechies
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@Ali_Al_Saddah people can be taught to behave appropriately, support workers also attending therapy? otherwise, why not? #WeSpeechies
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@wespeechies A3: we're all human but with different perspectives - some relate better to men, some relate better to women #WeSpeechies
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#Wespeechies A4 do we look at approach taken for women in STEM and start early e.g. school outreach programmes?
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@Ali_Al_Saddah #WeSpeechies don't get me wrong I love kids, volunteer with them etc but don't want to be pigeonholed as paeds b/c I'm fem...
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@JonRoustonSLT As soon as anyone puts there head above that IT FIX IT parapet they get asked for help constantly #WeSpeechies @hbogaardt
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@wespeechies #WeSpeechies yes happens quiet alot due to the shortage of male SLP in our hosp. & country for that matter
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@AydanSuphi #wespeechies after 20 years as an SLP, i'm not bothered by it anymore... I just smile quietly and eat my lunch :))
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@wespeechies Perhaps SLP/SLT is partly considered a "nurturing" profession, similar to teaching and nursing... #WeSpeechies
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@talkrunlearn #wespeechies maybe target school careers advisers. I hadn't heard of profession until 3 years after leaving school!
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@talkrunlearn @wespeechies @hbogaardt - Not always overt. STEMM discussion focuses on culture which discourages women. #WeSpeechies
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@AnnabelCHodges A3 BME clients having SLT of similar culture can address power balance. Not sure if this applies with gender #wespeechies
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@wespeechies A2: Perhaps SLP/SLT is partly considered a "nurturing" profession, similar to teaching and nursing... #WeSpeechies
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@BronwynHemsley #WeSpeechies I agree. we have support workers but are female & dont attend sessions. we dont even have a psychologist!!
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Welcome to chat @JennaPyne! #WeSpeechies crew this is my girlfriend who is also an SLP. Both sides represented in my house!
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@wespeechies A4: The hard bit is organizing the "profile raising" and getting the resources to do it #wespeechies
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Joining us late? All questions have now been tweeted, but you can go back and share your thoughts! #WeSpeechies
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@SusanEbbels #wespeechies Yes introducing the profession earlier to encourage male undergrad entry
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@hbogaardt #wespeechies I'd like to talk about fishing out of my kayak- no one here wants to talk about that- might join your lunchroom
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@wespeechies #wespeechies I go to every Open Day to show potential students that there are male SLPs as well. A4
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@wespeechies A4. More male mentors, particularly in paeds. Raising awareness of full scope of practice to high school boys/men #WeSpeechies
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@wespeechies will you also answer the questions Adrian? would love to hear your responses in the archive! #WeSpeechies
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Great find @JonRoustonSLT! @SpeechDudes #WeSpeechies
ali_al_saddah
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@AnnabelCHodges #WeSpeechies i enjoy working with kids who have artic disorders, stuttering. but none with behavioural difficulties
bronwynhemsley
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@NicoleByrne_UoN haven’t heard you try? also, most people don’t have same lunch at Uni! #WeSpeechies @hbogaardt
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Wider #DiversitySP is a must in my opinion @NicoleByrne_UoN! Whether people agree or not. @hbogaardt @SpeechDudes #WeSpeechies
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@AydanSuphi @wespeechies #wespeechies v.gd pt, hadn't considered...any lit on how power rebalance achieved in healthcare and SLT I wonder...
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I have experienced this myself @MareeRichardson! Both by adult male patients and parents of young boys. #WeSpeechies
bronwynhemsley
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@NicoleByrne_UoN kayaking stories ahead I think! #WeSpeechies @hbogaardt
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@wespeechies #wespeechies A4 awareness campaign regarding importance of SLP as a profession and reasons y we need male SLPs
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Same here in Ireland @Ali_Al_Saddah! #WeSpeechies
hbogaardt
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@wespeechies @NicoleByrne_UoN @SpeechDudes #wespeechies I think in the long run it would be better for the profession. #DiversitySP
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@wespeechies The freedom of choice, if they have a strong gender preference due to cultural reasons, past experiences, etc. #WeSpeechies
bronwynhemsley
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@Ali_Al_Saddah not sure on rationale of person w severe challenging behaviour (unsafe)attending an appointment without support? #WeSpeechies
prison_literacy
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@HannahLStark @wespeechies - Clients want someone who understands them and their situation not someone who 'respects' them. 1/2 #WeSpeechies
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@wespeechies A3: The freedom of choice, if they have a strong gender preference due to cultural reasons, past experiences, etc. #WeSpeechies
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I try to be present at as many as I can too @hbogaardt! More so student conferences, etc. hadn't considered Open Days until now.#WeSpeechies
prison_literacy
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@HannahLStark @wespeechies - A judge respects offender because of professional duty. Doesn't mean they understand them. 2/2 #WeSpeechies
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Just a reminder to keep using the #WeSpeechies tag & ‘Q4’ for answer to ‘Q4’ etc.
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@wespeechies A4: For change, there needs to be a formal, structured plan supported/promoted by (inter)national bodies (1/2) #wespeechies
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RT @hbogaardt: @wespeechies #wespeechies I go to every Open Day to show potential students that there are male SLPs as well. A4
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@wespeechies A4: A few tweets, several blogs posts, and a YouTube video isn't a campaign for change! (2/2) #wespeechies
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@wespeechies I am the only man in Dept of 11 SLPs. #WeSpeechies
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@BronwynHemsley Will do! #WeSpeechies
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@wespeechies A4: Change needs a champion, a budget, and a written plan. It really does. #wespeechies
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@ABradleySLT are you also the only tweeter in your department? I suspect higher rep of males in Twitter than IRL #Wespeechies
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@wespeechies - A4 Guaranteed interviews for male applicants at university and maybe for jobs too? Other professions do this 1/2 #WeSpeechies
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@wespeechies gender balance matters to me because I think greater diversity of profession will improve perception & entry men. #WeSpeechies
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@wespeechies @hbogaardt @SpeechDudes tho women usu don't get choice to speak to person they relate to eg Gynae often male Drs! #WeSpeechies
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@wespeechies - A4 disabled candidates as a matter of principle to encourage diversity (e.g. clinical psychology). 2/2 #WeSpeechies
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@BronwynHemsley #WeSpeechies it might not be classified as severe. just becomes 'challenging' when a female is involved.
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@wespeechies I don't know where it fits, but society does seem to see need for male teachers e.g. http://t.co/W6Nxnq7Ay7 #wespeechies
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#wespeechies A4 structured approaches are successful, worth learning from them, need organisational support e.g. http://t.co/rvRhudRmsL
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@wespeechies important that equal opportunities for all genders to find out about SLT as a career & feel included if they join #wespeechies
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@SpeechDudes @wespeechies #wespeechies I totally agree with you. But first nat bodies should see it as problem and must be willing to invest
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Governments, society, schools, hospitals, & units need to see more males in SLP/SLT as a priority. #WeSpeechies https://t.co/JHuobUWMAD
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A1. @wespeechies lol! I guess I am! Only male SLP is whole county of Cork. Population of >500,000! #WeSpeechies
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@Prison_literacy A4: That starts to sound like positive discrimination, which I'm also wary of, but I DO see your point! #wespeechies
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@SpeechDudes @wespeechies yes definitely 2 parts- SLP can lead change by personally encourageprospective ppl #DiversitySP #wespeechies (1/2)
bronwynhemsley
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@Ali_Al_Saddah there are ways to manage behaviour in this regard, perhaps SLTs/SLPs need more support and training in this area #WeSpeechies
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And we have reached the end of this week’s #WeSpeechies chat! Thanks to all participants!
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@Prison_literacy @wespeechies Not sure quotas are the way forward. I don't feel discriminated against. Too few men choosing SLP #WeSpeechies
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You can keep chatting about the topic & go back and answer missed Q’s. Remember to use the #WeSpeechies tag in all answers.
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@SpeechDudes @wespeechies but then also need consistent planned organised approach based on research evidence of what will work #wespeechies
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RT @ABradleySLT: A1. @wespeechies lol! I guess I am! Only male SLP is whole county of Cork. Population of >500,000! #WeSpeechies
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Tomorrow is a day for reflecting and expanding on points raised in tonight’s #WeSpeechies chat.
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RT @ABradleySLT: A1. @wespeechies lol! I guess I am! Only male SLP is whole county of Cork. Population of >500,000! #WeSpeechies
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I hope you will join us tomorrow as well to develop the points raised tonight. #WeSpeechies
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@SpeechDudes - A4 I have no issue with positive discrimination. Would extend to (female) ethnic minority candidates too. #WeSpeechies
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@hbogaardt A4: Asking for cash to fund a project is always entertaining! But is it a priority for the national bodies? #wespeechies
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I will continue to answer questions myself using my own profile @ABradley for the next little while. But it is good night from #WeSpeechies!
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@SpeechDudes #wespeechies we KNOW SLPs R highly effective recruiting ppl to professn- so SLPs need to think those ppl should be #DiversitySP
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@wespeechies Thanks very much @ABradleySLT Lots to think about! #WeSpeechies
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#wespeechies Great chat, thanks @wespeechies / @ABradleySLT Sleep time now!
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@wespeechies Night, thanks, and take care! I'm a dude and Tuesday night is half-price burgers and cheap beer at my local... #wespeechies
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@FeedingMatters: Dads don't get nearly enough credit! #UmbrellaDad http://t.co/Il7V0iyM6r” #wespeechies :))
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@wespeechies Thanks all! Interesting topic. Thanks to #RoCur @ABradleySLT for coordinating tonight's chat. #WeSpeechies
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@wespeechies @talkrunlearn Like convo of women in STEM,imbalance in SLP concerns me because it highlights underlying.. #wespeechies
pavimac
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@wespeechies @talkrunlearn sexism.As culture we still send message that "caregiving"=feminine, & that men are above such roles. #wespeechies
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@wespeechies @abradley thanks for hosting & goodnight 😊#wespeechies
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@HannahLStark @wespeechies - No doubt. But gender like class and race affect how seriously client takes you & your 'respect'. #WeSpeechies
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From international campaigns for recognition to beer & burgers is not atypical of how men can behave or think. We're like that #wespeechies
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@wespeechies @talkrunlearn I think it empowers everyone when there is diversity in ALL field of work. #wespeechies
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I'm with you on this one @speechbloke. @Prison_literacy #WeSpeechies
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@wespeechies A:4 clever promotion of the field is key! As the profession grows and more males engage, the stigma will evolve #WeSpeechies
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@SpeechDudes some men are like that? #WeSpeechies
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RT @ABradleySLT: @wespeechies gender balance matters to me because I think greater diversity of profession will improve perception & entry men. #WeSpeechies
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@BronwynHemsley #WeSpeechies yes definetely! problem is we have limited resources nationally, but still not an excuse
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RT @pavimac: @wespeechies @talkrunlearn sexism.As culture we still send message that "caregiving"=feminine, & that men are above such roles. #wespeechies
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Very good point @hbogaardt! @SpeechDudes @ASHAWeb @IASLT @RCSLT @SAC_OAC @NZSTA #WeSpeechies
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#wespeechies A4: I did not see any comments from any of the national bodies. Were any of their representatives lurking?
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@wespeechies @speechbloke - Under no obligation to take them so not 'quotas'. Just reflects the fact some people have 1/2 #WeSpeechies
bronwynhemsley
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@wespeechies I think ‘targets’ is now a more positively framed word to use, than quotas which is -vely loaded now @speechbloke #WESpeechies
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@Ali_Al_Saddah such behaviour could be an opportunity to teach appropriate responding, but need skills to spot lead up #WeSpeechies
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Never fear @SKP_SLP! You can tweet responses to questions at your convenience! #WeSpeechies
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RT @SpeechDudes: Gender imbalance in #wespeechies but does it actually matter? Why do we "need" more men? Is there something men can do that women can't?
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@wespeechies @speechbloke - 'traveled' further to get to the same point as others. Parallel is lower uni admissions grades. 2/2 #WeSpeechies
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RT @pavimac: @wespeechies @talkrunlearn Like convo of women in STEM,imbalance in SLP concerns me because it highlights underlying.. #wespeechies
ali_al_saddah
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@wespeechies #WeSpeechies A1. 2 male slp in dept of 18. <10 SLPs in the ministry of health kuwait covering a population of 3m+
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RT @pavimac: @wespeechies @talkrunlearn sexism.As culture we still send message that "caregiving"=feminine, & that men are above such roles. #wespeechies
bronwynhemsley
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@NicoleByrne_UoN breaking stereotypes merrily - I once caught one of those silver and yellow fish #WeSpeechies @hbogaardt
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Sounds awesome @SpeechDudes! #WeSpeechies
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RT @pavimac: @wespeechies @talkrunlearn I think it empowers everyone when there is diversity in ALL field of work. #wespeechies
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@hbogaardt Nik runs and I ride, so we have little in common LOL @NicoleByrne_UoN #WeSpeechies
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A1. I'm 1 man from 11 SLPs in my Dept so far & first EVER in my hospital! #WeSpeechies
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A1. I believe gender balance is important as it shows our pt's that we value diversity of thought, experience and perspectives. #WeSpeechies
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RT @SLT_Kimu76: Looking forward to hearing Tom speak about his project on Friday. @HCS_Sheffield #cjscen #wespeechies https://t.co/sNW2myKDzt
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@wespeechies A1. #wespeechies. Pro of being male SLP: no cueing for toilets at conventions. :)
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RT @pavimac: @wespeechies @talkrunlearn I think it empowers everyone when there is diversity in ALL field of work. #wespeechies
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A2. I think historically SLT/SLP was marketed as a job for women due to 'caring' nature of the work. #WeSpeechies
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RT @BronwynHemsley: @wespeechies I think ‘targets’ is now a more positively framed word to use, than quotas which is -vely loaded now @speechbloke #WESpeechies
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A2. The fact SLP is closely aligned with teaching (particularly young children) in many people's mind reinforces perception. #WeSpeechies
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#wespeechies Men in SLP is like the weather: Everyone talks about it but no-one seems to do anything about it. Shapiro's article was 1994!
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RT @JonRoustonSLT: @wespeechies A1 I think gender imbalance does matter, prof. should aim to represent diversity of client base: gender, relig etc #wespeechies
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#wespeechies but males also altruistic. Research shows AHP males wanted to help 'society' whereas females focus on helping individuals(1/2)