#medlibs transcript

Healthcare Social Media Transcript

From: Thu Dec 05 18:00:00 PST 2013
To: Thu Dec 05 19:15:00 PST 2013

What is #medlibs? Who were the influencers during this time period? #medlibs analytics


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eagledawg
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Hey #medlibs! Who's here to #moo tonight about those sacred library cows w/@krafty?
tlknott
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hey #medlibs Teresa here from Virginia, looking forward to learning about sacrificing sacred cows
mscully66
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#medlibs I'm here! Mike, Seattle, just got in from playing pool, so no "reading material" yet. ;-) Let's #moo !
carolinafan1982
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Roy from Richmond, hope everyone is doing well. #medlibs
librariandad
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Hey #medlibs! Long time no see!
mehlibrarian
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Margaret here from Richmond, VA. I've got red wine to go with the beef. #medlibs
blevinsa
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Amy from Iowa City. #medlibs #Moo
alisha764
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#medlibs Alisha from Mercer in Macon here...
krafty
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Welcome #medlibs Michelle here in Cleveland ready to kill some cows
carolinafan1982
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Where's the Beef: http://t.co/0rxfLJEhWB via @youtube #medlibs
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Elaine @UMMSLibrary here. Hi everyone. #medlibs
rnlibrarian
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Hi #medlibs. Jenn from Boston.
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molly k in new orleans w Stone sublimely self righteous ale and a SUPERcranky toddler #medlibs
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Hi #medlibs - Kristi from St. Louis. Looking forward to the conversation.
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Hi #medlibs Kim in Boston checking in. :)
loonlibrarian
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Hi all. Tricia from NJ. Sounds like a great topic #medlibs
librariandad
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#medlibs Just want to plug the MLA New Members SIG Hangout tomorrow 9pm https://t.co/g5AEw5EHi4
eagledawg
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Nikki, Seattle, ready to shake things up, #moo #crypticbigchange #medlibs
mscully66
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@CarolinaFan1982 @youtube Except there *is* "somebody back there" - us #medlibs!
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Hi #medlibs. Heather from Akron, OH. on vacation in Florida. Not chatting tonight. Just asking for hashtag ideas for Wednesday's webinar.
krafty
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#medlibs sacred cows are services or things we have always done just BECAUSE. let's look at the why & see if we keep or kill 'em
galvan_as
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@krafty Sacred cows taste best. Sorry I can't stick around for discussion, it's finals week + sick. #medlibs
tonynguyen411
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@galvan_as Get well. #medlibs
blevinsa
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How about the reference desk? #medlibs or rather librarians at the desk.
mehlibrarian
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@krafty helps to ask WHY when you look at something. And if the answer is "we've always done it that way" check it out #medlibs
eagledawg
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Context for tonight's #medlibs chat http://t.co/4KsDouoAZu Who has audio of @funkme77's 'We Have Always Done It That Way'?
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Hi #medlibs, Christian from MD
tonynguyen411
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Do we have #medlibs
tonynguyen411
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Do we really have to check in hard copy journals? #medlibs
mehlibrarian
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@blevinsa Reference desk staffed by libns has been disappearing for many years. But some places have a culture that expects one #medlibs
krafty
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#medlibs what might be killed at one lib should be kept at another. I use our front desk a good example at other libs kill it, we must keep
galvan_as
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I try to not let systems get in the way of service. "We Have Always Done It This Way" is in big X in my office. #medlibs
librariandad
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#medlibs One lucky thing about being at a brand new medlib... we've never done it ANY way before! :)
mscully66
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@TonyNguyen411 Pro: confirm receipt of all issues, esp. when print is only form of subscription. Con: Are we really missing much? #medlibs
blevinsa
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I personally love sitting at the desk from time to time. I get to see the students coming in and see what's happening. #medlibs
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RT @eagledawg: Context for tonight's #medlibs chat http://t.co/4KsDouoAZu Who has audio of @funkme77's 'We Have Always Done It That Way'?
loonlibrarian
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@TonyNguyen411 Good question. We don't have that many in print but they pile up. #medlibs
tlknott
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We routinely toss print that comes e into the recycle bin #medlibs
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RT @Librariandad: #medlibs Just want to plug the MLA New Members SIG Hangout tomorrow 9pm https://t.co/g5AEw5EHi4
mehlibrarian
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@TonyNguyen411 Somebody has to keep the publishers honest :-) #medlibs
blevinsa
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@alisha764 if librarian offices are near th desk, I think being on call could work well. #medlibs
mscully66
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Our (ahem! *my*) "reference desk" is wherever I happen to be at the moment (the realities of solo-dom). #medlibs
librariandad
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@pfanderson ALL #medlibs are welcome at tomorrow's Hangout (9pm)
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@blevinsa I find I can be more proactive, see opportunities for help when the patron doesn't always realize it. #medlibs
carolinafan1982
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@blevinsa I used to love working the desk, but now just not the best use of my time or my colleagues time where I am #medlibs
blevinsa
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@pfanderson Never underestimate the value of helping a confused looking person. :) #medlibs
alisha764
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@blevinsa yes, libs are near desk... so they work on projects then if needed can come to ref desk. #medlibs we do fill in when needed
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@TonyNguyen411 I think we quit doing that years ago, if we had electronic also #medlibs
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#medlibs What "costs" more, an unclaimed journal or missed opportunities with patrons as you do the claims?
mehlibrarian
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With journals online, library use changes, so desk staffing needs to change. So you need to go out where people need you. #medlibs
pfanderson
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@CarolinaFan1982 @blevinsa Even better than being at the desk, tho, is being in the classroom, the lab, the office where folk work #medlibs
mscully66
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@Librariandad @pfanderson 9pm ET, I take it? #medlibs
carolinafan1982
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@mehlibrarian Getting out is especially true when the library is not a place that is central to students #medlibs
librariandad
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@mscully66 @pfanderson #medlibs YES, sorry!
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@blevinsa I love to just walk up and gently say, "Is there anything I could do to help?" They might not ask, but they'll answer ;) #medlibs
krafty
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#medlibs we can always get the journal article some other way but can we get the people?
blevinsa
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@pfanderson @CarolinaFan1982 True. Take a laptop. Maybe a sign if there's not a designated space. #medlibs
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RT @krafty: #medlibs What "costs" more, an unclaimed journal or missed opportunities with patrons as you do the claims?
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@pfanderson I couldn't agree more, I love the time I spend working with nurse clinicians, faculty and others where they are #medlibs
mehlibrarian
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What about getting rid of the 'Discovery' aka federated search since everyone uses Google? #medlibs
librariandad
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#medlibs we try to get in front of the students any opportunity we can
mscully66
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@blevinsa @pfanderson @CarolinaFan1982 Great idea! Gotta look into that. #medlibs
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RT @blevinsa: @pfanderson @CarolinaFan1982 True. Take a laptop. Maybe a sign if there's not a designated space. #medlibs
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RT @blevinsa: @pfanderson Never underestimate the value of helping a confused looking person. :) #medlibs
alisha764
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what about literature alerts/list when there are so many services available these days #medlibs not customized alerts for patrons
tonynguyen411
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@krafty I think the missed opportunity is the bigger loss than one unchecked journal that may go missing anyway. #medlibs
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#medlibs we have multi use desk at libs and assistants staff it. We have 100k visits a year so our desk is important and used
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@mehlibrarian I think that is a good idea if the tool is cumbersome and taking up resources that could be better used elsewhere #medlibs
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Different service expectations in different libs. Hospital, academic, special all have different needs #medlibs
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@CarolinaFan1982 I always got a little edgy chained to a desk … Now we have librarians all over the place! #medlibs
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#medlibs still really hard to be sure you're getting what you need with Google. We do tend to direct them to pubmed over fed search
blevinsa
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@alisha764 Yes! Teach them to fish for themselves. Show them options. #medlibs
mscully66
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@alisha764 The relatively few I do/schedule are very popular. But I direct people to DIY versions now available. #medlibs
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@mscully66 @blevinsa @CarolinaFan1982 We've even had office hours in the cafeteria!!! #medlibs
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@pfanderson I keep office hours in the student break room and field plenty of questions during that time #medlibs
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RT @alisha764: what about literature alerts/list when there are so many services available these days #medlibs not customized alerts for pa…
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#medlibs we periodically have required assignments that force them to show us how they search pubmed so we can check their skills
blevinsa
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How about teaching face to face sessions? That's definitely a sacred cow. #medlibs
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RT @CarolinaFan1982: @pfanderson I keep office hours in the student break room and field plenty of questions during that time #medlibs
alisha764
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@mscully66 if it is specific alert then great. Actually I create alerts on topics, review & send handful of items 2 ppl #medlibs
krafty
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@TonyNguyen411 agreed. Lost opportunity more costly than journal #medlibs
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@CarolinaFan1982 Love it! #medlibs
tlknott
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Changed our default search on our home page to PubMed a few yrs ago on the theory that our users are more interested in journal lit #medlibs
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RT @tlknott: Changed our default search on our home page to PubMed a few yrs ago on the theory that our users are more interested in journa…
alisha764
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@blevinsa exactly! Show them Read by QxMD, medscape, etc. spend more time on other searches or build pages w/links 2 alert services #medlibs
carolinafan1982
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@blevinsa Doesn't the need for that also depend on the demand of the library users that are served? #medlibs
mscully66
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@alisha764 Ours are topical, not TOC. #medlibs
tlknott
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Yes, it is! RT @blevinsa How about teaching face to face sessions? That's definitely a sacred cow. #medlibs
blevinsa
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@pfanderson nice! Get them where they're at. Sometimes just seeing us triggers a question or reminds person of need. #medlibs
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I absolutely adore the blogpost by @Krafty for tonights chat Killing the Sacred Library Cows http://t.co/sQiiPFkkJK #medlibs #libchat
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#medlibs we bribe them into face-to-face workshops with food
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RT @galvan_as: @mehlibrarian Or just have addon to browser or something - click to check lib holdings/ILL of items. #medlibs
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RT @alisha764: @blevinsa exactly! Show them Read by QxMD, medscape, etc. spend more time on other searches or build pages w/links 2 alert s…
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@alisha764 I create those too for specific faculty members based on their research interests/ did series on safety topics for hosp. #medlibs
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RT @blevinsa: @pfanderson nice! Get them where they're at. Sometimes just seeing us triggers a question or reminds person of need. #medlibs
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@mscully66 next question... can we show them how to create topic specific alerts themselves? & let them manage? #medlibs
mscully66
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@tlknott @blevinsa I have primers posted online (necessarily!). But face-to-face "teachable moment" has its value, too. #medlibs
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Awesome work w/ UCSF Profiles data! RT @anirvan: Every researcher at UCSF — by school http://t.co/2E5wRLKw22 #medlibs
pfanderson
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@blevinsa The value of elevator conversations, but they can only happen if you are in the same elevator at the same time! #medlibs
krafty
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#medlibs Did away w/ ref section. All books & media interfiled on shelves. 1 stop subj shelf browsing. Red dot on spine means lib use only
blevinsa
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@tlknott I'm trying to challenge myself with my personal favorite sacred cow. :) #medlibs
librariandad
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#medlibs how about having a broad collection? We piggyback off the University's collection, but we mainly only have textbooks for ourselves
carolinafan1982
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@blevinsa @pfanderson several times a week I just walk through school of nursing & ask faculty if they need anything, they love it #medlibs
rnlibrarian
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@blevinsa @pfanderson Agree. Important to find efficient ways to make F-T-F contact w. patrons. Otherwise, easy 2 B forgotten. #medlibs
mscully66
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@alisha764 Some patrons are a tough "teach": they want something they can do once, in about 5-seconds. Topic-alerts more complex. #medlibs
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@krafty Dong that at our library would definitely free up some more space for student use #medlibs
mehlibrarian
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How about cataloging? Do we need it? #medlibs
blevinsa
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@alisha764 @mscully66 maybe with the right class, tutorial, etc. do one and send it back with instructions on how it was done. #medlibs
krafty
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Depends. Not necessarily RT @mehlibrarian: How about cataloging? Do we need it? #medlibs
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@mehlibrarian Cataloging is fine, but it doesnt have to be perfect. #medlibs
mscully66
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@blevinsa @alisha764 Primer #6,473! ;-) #medlibs
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@mscully66 ah you make an excellent point! Why teach them how 2 build when it's easier for us... #medlibs (part 1)
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@mscully66 I will say then I ask... can we spend time creating a better system to help our patrons so it's not so difficult? #medlibs
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RT @mscully66: @tlknott @blevinsa I have primers posted online (necessarily!). But face-to-face "teachable moment" has its value, too. #med…
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Maybe we should periodically ask ourselves "what would happen if we did away with this?" #medlibs question everything
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RT @CarolinaFan1982: @blevinsa @pfanderson several times a week I just walk through school of nursing & ask faculty if they need anything, …
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@TonyNguyen411 I can ask that questions since my grandmother was a cataloger. I agree - just has to be findable not perfect #medlibs
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With our circ numbers, I'm ready to stick to a strictly e-book collection #medlibs
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Totally ok with collective cataloging. Original, just the easiest access points to get it quickly on the shelf. #medlibs
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AMEN if who cares about size and illus RT @TonyNguyen411: @mehlibrarian Cataloging is fine, but it doesnt have to be perfect. #medlibs
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excellent! MT @krafty: #medlibs Did away w/ref section. All books & media on shelves. 1 stop subj shelf browsing. Red dot means lib use only
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@mehlibrarian Given that folk do their own "curation & metadata creation" I think the value of cataloging is ensured. But partner? #medlibs
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@tlknott Would be curious as to the reaction of patrons if we went that direction. I like it because of the heavy journal focus #medlibs
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@alisha764 Gotta work on that one! #medlibs
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As I said in the listserv today, our skill sets have changed even if the perception of us hasn't #medlibs
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@mehlibrarian Crowdsourcing elements of cataloging is quite valuable. #medlibs
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@blevinsa We can also ask, "What would happen if they had this service instead?" For example, academic publishing help, data mgmt #medlibs
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Hi all. Just getting in from a wonderful program of holiday music @WPI. Sally from UMass Med. #medlibs
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RT @alisha764: @mscully66 I will say then I ask... can we spend time creating a better system to help our patrons so it's not so difficult?…
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How about a totally virtual presence? Gone with print! #medlibs
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@mscully66 take a look at read by qx md, it is really easy to use. There are others to #medlibs
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@alisha764 @mscully66 Lesson learned: The systems we teach most are because they were designed broken :) #medlibs
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#medlibs What have we sacrificed so far?
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@pfanderson But if we have ebooks then they just search content - so no tagging needed. #medlibs
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@enginegrl5 I think that would be a good idea of the e-book platforms were a bit better. #medlibs
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RT @kristiholmes: Awesome work w/ UCSF Profiles data! RT @anirvan: Every researcher at UCSF — by school http://t.co/2E5wRLKw22 #medlibs
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@krafty @TonyNguyen411 @mehlibrarian Our local public library has game 4 patrons to help fix errors in the catalog, enrich entries #medlibs
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U Texas #medlibs have already pitching print - all bks in state system sent to 1 big storage facility
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@RNLibrarian good point! We can't do everything even if we want to. Something has to give with new needs. #medlibs
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@mandosally Librarians on a reference desk, in person educational sessions, checking in journals, maybe cataloging #medlibs
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@blevinsa I do... just be careful and know your patrons #medlibs
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RT @blevinsa: Maybe we should periodically ask ourselves "what would happen if we did away with this?" #medlibs question everything
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#medlibs we don't buy any books authored or chapt authored by our people. They are strongly encouraged to donate it to lib
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@alisha764 we don't ever want to alienate our fans and champions. #medlibs
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@enginegrl5 Budget concerns (pubs. want mondo-$ for few textbooks), but want to do it. #medlibs
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@enginegrl5 The first time I heard that question was in … 1987. :) I believe in both the face & the space #medlibs
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@enginegrl5 This is probably the future. Yet, since many associate librarians w. books, need 2 enhance our virtual image. #medlibs
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Hi all. Marie here. (I'll be quiet for a while because I don't even know what the topic is...) #medlibs
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#medlibs we usually don't buy anything in print we have online.
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Multi-part series on research collaboration patterns at @UCSF at http://t.co/N3O7xYOclI — follow by email or RSS. cc: @ucsflibrary #medlibs
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@mehlibrarian I disagree! I have huge full text collection of stuff I'm interested in. Needs tags so I can find. Keywords not in FT #medlibs
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@pfanderson @enginegrl5 I consulted at a hospital library that now is just virtual. It can be done. #medlibs
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@pfanderson maybe another 10 years. :) #medlibs
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@pfanderson I'm cool with user added tags. Let them decide how they it should be searchable. #medlibs
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@mehlibrarian @tlknott We kid, but... in some cases, we could. I'll toss out that in some cases, biggest cow of all is the library. #medlibs
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@blevinsa Plus in a face to face session, patrons get to know you and feel comfortable asking for help when they need it. #medlibs
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@pfanderson Not even in index or contents? #medlibs
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@mascher hey marie we're burning sacred cows of #medlibs. what do wanna throw on the bbq? bks, cataloging & admin already on the rotisserie
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Most of our interactions are direct via email, rather than in person. We do have at least 1 one-on-one ref consult/yr/student #medlibs
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@blevinsa Yes, the question is what do we lose & what do we get in return? What will produce greatest ROI & least loss if gone? #medlibs
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RT @mascher: Hi all. Marie here. (I'll be quiet for a while because I don't even know what the topic is...) #medlibs
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RT @TonyNguyen411: @pfanderson I'm cool with user added tags. Let them decide how they it should be searchable. #medlibs
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@mandosally That is especially true when you reflect as to how much time you actually spend there, when it comes to your job #medlibs
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RT @anirvan: Multi-part series on research collaboration patterns at @UCSF at http://t.co/N3O7xYOclI — follow by email or RSS. cc: @ucsflib…
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@mehlibrarian Most indices I've seen show the pages on which words appear, not alternate words for same idea #medlibs
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We're throwing scheduled classes on the grill. Following @mandosally's on-demand model. #medlibs
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@blevinsa Plus you get insight into what is going on in the school, unit, etc. See opportunities to get involved #medlibs
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RT @RNLibrarian: @enginegrl5 This is probably the future. Yet, since many associate librarians w. books, need 2 enhance our virtual image. …
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@pfanderson That's true. It's the synonyms that always mess things up. #medlibs
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@mehlibrarian @pfanderson @enginegrl5 & this is why we need to promote librarians more.. its more than the space #medlibs
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#medlibs relinquishing purchasing control to users could be a killing a cow to make room for a new farm animal
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pitch the circ desk, add self checkout, employ a all pervasive help button w/ a friendly face ala new AMazon Kindle commercials #medlibs
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Very true! RT @krafty: #medlibs relinquishing purchasing control to users could be a killing a cow to make room for a new farm animal
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@mandosally @mehlibrarian @tlknott That's quite a roast! Do U think create more opptys available for virtual telecommute work? #medlibs
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@enginegrl5 LOL! We get closer. #medlibs
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RT @mandosally: @mehlibrarian @tlknott We kid, but... in some cases, we could. I'll toss out that in some cases, biggest cow of all is the …
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@mascher @mandosally have mixed feelings about scheduled classes. Love them when people randomly show up. Not so much when 0 show #medlibs
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@mandosally @mehlibrarian @tlknott As long as we keep the librarians … #medlibs
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@dial_m Have you seen the new Google Help? I was thinking that would be a good library "help button" model. #medlibs
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Amen! RT @alisha764 @mehlibrarian @pfanderson @enginegrl5 this is why we need to promote librarians more.. its more than the space #medlibs
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RT @alisha764: @mehlibrarian @pfanderson @enginegrl5 & this is why we need to promote librarians more.. its more than the space #medlibs
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RT @mehlibrarian: @pfanderson That's true. It's the synonyms that always mess things up. #medlibs
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@mascher we had this discussion recently. We got rid of them but now admin wants to bring back b/c other aahsl libs do it. Boo. #medlibs
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@krafty I would like to show users the cost of sacred databases to have them really think about wants vs. needs. This the season. #medlibs
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@RNLibrarian @mandosally @tlknott As has been noted, getting to where the people are great, so telecomworks if there is a button #medlibs
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@blevinsa @mandosally I'm tired of planning for classes and have no one show. Won't do it anymore. Time is more valuable than that #medlibs
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@dial_m We're in the process of doing just that! #medlibs
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@krafty Question: Do U think there is value to #medlibs negotiating prices on resources? If users buy, may not get some deals. We save $.
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"@pfanderson: @mandosally @mehlibrarian @tlknott As long as we keep the librarians … #medlibs" Yes. We talk to much re value of libraries...
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@TonyNguyen411 @krafty Being open about costs is helpful. Make the users think about what they are asking for. #medlibs
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@tlknott @alisha764 @mehlibrarian @enginegrl5 And the spaces are taking different forms. But the FACE should always be most impt #medlibs
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@s_schulte Nothing like continuing to do something just because everyone else is doing it. If it doesn't work best to stop #medlibs
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@alisha764 @mehlibrarian @pfanderson @enginegrl5 Headed that way, but need to rein in the haphazard way we are being pushed there. #medlibs
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When I visited NC State's new library, loved the help buttons with two way communication they had in study rooms #medlibs
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@pfanderson @mehlibrarian @tlknott ... and not enough about value of librarians. Just my opinion. #medlibs
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@mandosally @pfanderson @mehlibrarian @tlknott no librarians=not a library #medlibs
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@s_schulte We'll still teach classes but not schedule them unless we have committed participants. #medlibs
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RT @mandosally: "@pfanderson: @mandosally @mehlibrarian @tlknott As long as we keep the librarians … #medlibs" Yes. We talk to much re valu…
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@mandosally @mehlibrarian @tlknott I tell folk Google isn't a library, because there isn't a librarian. #medlibs
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@mascher @blevinsa Our model has worked really well for over a year now. #medlibs
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Maybe the sacred cow is 'librarian'. Would information professional or knowledge manager be better? #medlibs
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@mandosally @mehlibrarian @tlknott Not just your opinion, many agree :) #medlibs
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I disagree with that statement RT @blevinsa @mandosally @pfanderson @mehlibrarian @tlknott no librarians=not a library #medlibs
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RT @blevinsa: @mandosally @pfanderson @mehlibrarian @tlknott no librarians=not a library #medlibs
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@mascher @s_schulte I am busy enough classes are done when I am invited. Scheduling? What's that? #medlibs
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Librarian is about skill and knowledge, not about a physical structure #medlibs
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Just updated these today. @mandosally @blevinsa No classes will be scheduled in January -- except some special classes... #medlibs
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@mehlibrarian For reals. But a bloodied librarian sounds awful and I don't taste delectable as a cow. #medlibs
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Oops... these are what I just updated... example: http://t.co/4bTYSflLRi @blevinsa @mandosally #medlibs
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#medlibs @RNLibrarian never hurts to negotiate but sometimes u have little room either b/c vendor too popular or b/c lib consortia limits u
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@mehlibrarian not sure if people identify with name change...not that they understand a modern librarian role. Hm.. #medlibs
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@CarolinaFan1982 @s_schulte SO true! Sometimes we ? things & others say but every1 else is doing it, & I sound odd 2 question it #medlibs
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@tlknott @blevinsa @pfanderson @mehlibrarian Me too. I believe it's libraries do not = librarians. We're not synonyms. #medlibs
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@tlknott @blevinsa @mandosally @mehlibrarian It's part of shifting dynamic. There are those sidewalk libraries now. Definitions? #medlibs
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RT @tlknott: Librarian is about skill and knowledge, not about a physical structure #medlibs
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#medlibs here's a sacred cow... study guides! Do patrons use them?
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@tlknott @blevinsa @mandosally @mehlibrarian That might make a good topic some week #medlibs
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Sacred cow? The academic journal. Kill it. #medlibs #micdrop
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RT @deanhendrix: Sacred cow? The academic journal. Kill it. #medlibs #micdrop
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Good plan! RT @deanhendrix Sacred cow? The academic journal. Kill it. #medlibs #micdrop
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RT @deanhendrix: Sacred cow? The academic journal. Kill it. #medlibs #micdrop
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@mandosally @tlknott @blevinsa @mehlibrarian I think there is an impt difference between a little-l library (random collection)… #medlibs
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Shall we kill peer review, too? Rely on crowdsourcing review? #medlibs
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@enginegrl5 If makes people take notice and think bigger than books and journals, a name change would help though. #medlibs
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@CarolinaFan1982 That's impressive. Good for you!! #medlibs @Librariandad
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Mmmmm.... meat... RT @kristiholmes @deanhendrix Sacred cow? The academic journal. Kill it. #medlibs #micdrop
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@pfanderson @tlknott @mandosally @mehlibrarian when is it a room full of books vs library? Or a website covered in links? #medlibs
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@mandosally @tlknott @blevinsa @mehlibrarian ...and big-L Library designed with care, thought, concern, etc. #medlibs
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@tlknott I think there are some scientists already sacrificing peer review, so we can help them. #medlibs
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@Librariandad don't get me started on study guides. Grr! #medlibs
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@Librariandad libguides, patrons use sometimes. but corraling #medlibs to make them pretty can be another thing
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#medlibs @enginegrl5 @mehlibrarian SLA tried changing their name to eliminate lib word epic fail of fails. Spent gobs of money doing too
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@krafty why are you even asking for clev clinic faculty books? Whats the purpose if you are collecting them in print? #medlibs
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@mandosally It doesn't hurt that I pretty much make every patron bookmark it & is the primary link to library in all online classes #medlibs
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@blevinsa @tlknott @mandosally @mehlibrarian Next obvious question: does owning a library make a person a librarian? #medlibs
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@dial_m @Librariandad or stopping them from making everything a LibGuide. #medlibs
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@krafty @enginegrl5 True, but if you look at job ads, the names they are a changing. #medlibs
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RT @tlknott: Librarian is about skill and knowledge, not about a physical structure #medlibs
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@krafty @enginegrl5 @mehlibrarian We're probably stuck with name. Sure need 2 educate the masses as 2 what we actually do. #medlibs (pt. 1)
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@mehlibrarian The skill set requirements are too. Though I think the pay is not. #medlibs
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@mehlibrarian We are now "information specialists" to provoke conversations about why we are no longer librarians. #medlibs
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#medlibs They just seem to be a bit bloated and unfriendly
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RT @mascher: Oops... these are what I just updated... example: http://t.co/4bTYSflLRi @blevinsa @mandosally #medlibs
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@TonyNguyen411 The pay will not because it is still a female dominated profession, but that is another chat. #medlibs
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RT @deanhendrix: Sacred cow? The academic journal. Kill it. #medlibs #micdrop
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@blevinsa @dial_m @Librariandad AMEN! #medlibs
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@deanhendrix Dude, Buffalo is cold. I need to be hardy stock to survive there. #medlibs
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@mehlibrarian I have to say folks here seem to understand embedded librarian but not informationist. #medlibs
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RT @blevinsa: @pfanderson @tlknott @mandosally @mehlibrarian when is it a room full of books vs library? Or a website covered in links? #me…
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@mehlibrarian @krafty @enginegrl5 Library school names R changing to iSchools or Drexel now houses MLS in Computing School. #medlibs
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@deanhendrix Our Faculty write in core titles. Example: our Dr Drake is the author of Grays anatomy #medlibs
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@s_schulte @mehlibrarian I think the same is true here as well. #medlibs
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@mscully66 @krafty @enginegrl5 @mehlibrarian A rose by any other name...we're not the only profession with misconceptions. #medlibs
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ok I'm going to say it... rethink ALL organizations, societies, certifications u have 2 make sure beneficial in many ways #medlibs
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@tlknott no. Continuous transparent peer review. Version control. Social filters. Altmetrics. No more "journal of blahbadeeblah" #medlibs
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@krafty @enginegrl5 @mehlibrarian Library's admin. dir. asked co-worker what he did "besides count...books?" :-( (i.e., No idea!) #medlibs
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RT @tlknott: Librarian is about skill and knowledge, not about a physical structure #medlibs
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@s_schulte @mehlibrarian Jane wrote beautiful piece explaining why we are now informationists. Hope it goes up on web at some point #medlibs
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RT @blevinsa: @mscully66 @krafty @enginegrl5 @mehlibrarian A rose by any other name...we're not the only profession with misconceptions. #m…
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RT @deanhendrix: @tlknott no. Continuous transparent peer review. Version control. Social filters. Altmetrics. No more "journal of blahbade…
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trying to get libs out of boxes RT @alisha764: ok I'm going to say it... rethink ALL organizations, societies, certifications... #medlibs
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@alisha764 Agree, especially since hospitals & healthcare orgs undergoing same re-think. #medlibs
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#medlibs All I'm saying is SLA could have spent that name change on me to give an opinion and theyd be no worse now ;)
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@Librariandad libguides seem to be an unfortunate sacred cow that will not be burned...for now. #medlibs
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@deanhendrix @tlknott YES! I'm with Dean. Been witnessing interesting conversations on this topic by Paul Courant #medlibs
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@CarolinaFan1982 @s_schulte @mehlibrarian Nobody knows wth that word means. Even when we define it, we don't stick to definition. #medlibs
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@pfanderson @mehlibrarian I like the infornationist title but non lib people struggle with the concept imo.#medlibs
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@pfanderson @s_schulte @mehlibrarian I would like to read it. #medlibs
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I dunno... #medinfomsts just doesn't ring like #medlibs
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I think I need more help with Altmetrics though I learned Impact Factors on my own at the request of Research & Scholarly Activity. #medlibs
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@s_schulte I just tell people that I don't care what you want to call me, but to just call me when you feel I can help :) #medlibs
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Exactly RT @s_schulte: @pfanderson @mehlibrarian I like the infornationist title but non lib people struggle with the concept imo.#medlibs
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@pfanderson @mehlibrarian @tlknott If it's a conduit to library resources, why isn't it? #medlibs #devilsadvocate
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@s_schulte @mehlibrarian I am a LIBRARIAN at heart, by vocation, as spiritual calling. Doesn't mean I can't also be informationist #medlibs
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@s_schulte @pfanderson @mehlibrarian With librarian, people have a concept to start with, at least. There's something to build on #medlibs
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@mehlibrarian At same time, I think it gives great value to name "librarian" to wear it as a badge w/ pride, go out in public as #medlibs
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@krafty @s_schulte The attending calls me the walking researcher who finds literature for pts like magic... #medlibs
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#medlibs how about PubMed Whisperer for new librarian name?
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@blevinsa @s_schulte @mehlibrarian I argued that, also. Point is to break assumptions of what is "librarian" by taking term away #medlibs
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RT @TonyNguyen411: @krafty @s_schulte The attending calls me the walking researcher who finds literature for pts like magic... #medlibs
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@blevinsa @s_schulte @pfanderson I guess we need to work at helping people add to their concept of librarian #medlibs
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@krafty That is a good one , or go broader with something like the "database whisperer" #medlibs
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@mehlibrarian @blevinsa @s_schulte @pfanderson That's exactly it! We need to help people expand their definition of librarian #medlibs
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"Librarian" not used in front of patients. Confuses the heck as to why I'm there with a lot of doctors. #medlibs
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@TonyNguyen411 @krafty @s_schulte Students @ Northwestern brought me comics of "info goddess" cuz that's what they I was #medlibs
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RT @krafty: #medlibs how about PubMed Whisperer for new librarian name?
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RT @mehlibrarian: @blevinsa @s_schulte @pfanderson I guess we need to work at helping people add to their concept of librarian #medlibs
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#medlibs We are in the home stretch the transcript will go to 10 after, any last sacred cows you want offer up?
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@krafty Sounds fancy. PubMed and other resources whisperer? More words = more important, right? #medlibs
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@blevinsa @mascher Ours is a pretty even combo. I get individual requests, but strive to group them if possible. #medlibs Doodle polls!
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@pfanderson in process on writing imls planning grant to plan proof of concept. Going to cni next week to sell libs and get allies. #medlibs
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Each of us has experience bringing some librarian skill to the table & amazing the recipient with our librarian wizardry :) #medlibs
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@TonyNguyen411 @krafty @s_schulte So you are and "Information Magician" - that works #medlibs
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RT @tlknott: @mehlibrarian @blevinsa @s_schulte @pfanderson That's exactly it! We need to help people expand their definition of librarian …
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#medlibs I've just had to just say what I do versus what I am (teach database searching and science writing), just to give people a clue
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@tlknott @mehlibrarian @s_schulte @pfanderson YES! If they don't know, it's partly our responsibility. #medlibs
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must remind myself... turn off forwarding post to all social networking sites when it's #medlibs tweet time. Opps!
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@tlknott @mehlibrarian @blevinsa @s_schulte I see the work I do on Twitter as part of expanding people's view of "librarian" #medlibs
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I often start talks by saying I'm here to dispel myths about librarians. #medlibs
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RT @deanhendrix: @pfanderson in process on writing imls planning grant to plan proof of concept. Going to cni next week to sell libs and ge…
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@mandosally @blevinsa Yep, I adopted your Doodle poll idea for this. I was listening. We do about 50/50 consult/classes. #medlibs
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#medlibs Information Rockstar, less granola-ish more cool
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@TonyNguyen411 we are the benficaries of global warming. By the time i retire, Buffalo will be the new South Beach. #medlibs
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@blevinsa @tlknott @mehlibrarian @s_schulte I think this is 1 where both sides are right, so I'm embracing both sets of strategies #medlibs
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@pfanderson @tlknott @mehlibrarian @blevinsa @s_schulte Think we need to do a PSA campaign. #medlibs
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Cleve=beach front RT @deanhendrix: @TonyNguyen411 we are the benficaries of global warming, Buffalo will be the new South Beach. #medlibs
mandosally
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@mascher @blevinsa People love the Doodle. :) #medlibs
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RT @s_schulte: I often start talks by saying I'm here to dispel myths about librarians. #medlibs
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Also stay flexible & be willing to have projects fail. But don't wait 4 things 2 be perfect 2 implement. help users now #medlibs
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@mandosally @blevinsa I too do love the Doodle. :-) #medlibs
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RT @alisha764: Also stay flexible & be willing to have projects fail. But don't wait 4 things 2 be perfect 2 implement. help users now #med…
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@RNLibrarian yes. Something like this isn't your mother's librarian. #medlibs
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@RNLibrarian @tlknott @mehlibrarian @blevinsa @s_schulte MANY PSA campaigns! And get others to include us in theirs. :) #medlibs
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#medlibs nomenclature: the most sacred cow of all. Good night all infowizards, querywhisperers & answerfairies. tomorrow we search again.
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Fabulous conversation #medlibs! Keep it going for 15 mins on transcript http://t.co/Dnqvnzz5Au
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@s_schulte I like that. Can I borrow that? #medlibs
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No shushing librarians in the PSA, that's all I ask. #medlibs
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RT @s_schulte: @RNLibrarian yes. Something like this isn't your mother's librarian. #medlibs
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@loonlibrarian sure. Why not? #medlibs
mehlibrarian
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Good night all. Elementary is on! GREAT chat. #medlibs
blevinsa
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How many cows did we kill tonight? Is anyone sharpens their knives for tomorrow? #medlibs
pfanderson
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@s_schulte @RNLibrarian Hashtag #notyourmamaslibn Go forth, make it a meme :) #medlibs
mandosally
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@eagledawg I agree. Great topic. Great chat. Now I've got to get back to writing my song about the Peanut Jesus. #medlibs @AskingAmy
pfanderson
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RT @eagledawg: Fabulous conversation #medlibs! Keep it going for 15 mins on transcript http://t.co/Dnqvnzz5Au
tonynguyen411
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Bed time. Thanks for killing some cows folks. Let me know how successful/unsuccessful you were at them at your library. #medlibs
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@RNLibrarian @s_schulte I love the people who say 'oh my mother/grandmother used to be a librarian!' #medlibs
tlknott
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Good night folks. Was a great chat. #medlibs
mascher
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@mandosally LOL Peanut Jesus! #medlibs
librariandad
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Last plug to #medlibs... MLA New Member Hangout (ALL welcome) tomorrow 9pmE https://t.co/g5AEw5EHi4
krafty
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RT @Librariandad: Last plug to #medlibs... MLA New Member Hangout (ALL welcome) tomorrow 9pmE https://t.co/g5AEw5EHi4
pfanderson
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@mandosally @eagledawg @AskingAmy I adore you. So FUNNY! #medlibs
tlknott
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RT @Librariandad Last plug to #medlibs... MLA New Member Hangout (ALL welcome) tomorrow 9pmE https://t.co/6RsgbklIY4
mascher
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RT @Librariandad: Last plug to #medlibs... MLA New Member Hangout (ALL welcome) tomorrow 9pmE https://t.co/PQ7o1T6UJi
s_schulte
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@enginegrl5 @RNLibrarian and you can respond appropriately now. :) #medlibs
blevinsa
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Thanks for the great chat everyone! Goodnight. #medlibs
rnlibrarian
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. RT @tillie_t77 U made excellent pts in the Med-Lib listserv 2day about data mgmt skills, etc. A must read.#medlibs
mandosally
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@mascher @blevinsa @Librariandad No budget for that & I'll be darned if I'm baking cookies! Lordy! Talk about stereotypes. #medlibs
mascher
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@mandosally @blevinsa @Librariandad Was gonna say. THAT would be your grandmother's librarian! #medlibs
mascher
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@mandosally @blevinsa @Librariandad But I do like cookies... #medlibs

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