#WeSpeechies transcript

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From: Mon Jun 16 17:00:00 PDT 2014
To: Tue Jun 17 23:00:00 PDT 2014

What is #WeSpeechies? Who were the influencers during this time period? #WeSpeechies analytics


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RT @BronwynHemsley: I agree with that! #Retract! MT @CanDoSLP: My open letter to Avery Johnson of The Wall Street Journal. http://t.co/8K00Pv8LjI #wespeechies
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RT @speech_woman: @ProfRvach blogs on phonological memory & planning, Dodd's inconsistent speech disorder & Core Vocab Tx. http://t.co/qvrXOMlP2d #WeSpeechies
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Req. help with E3BP for speech & lang. home practice for early + school pop. Have checked usual sources but stuck. TIA #wespeechies #slpeeps
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RT @speech_woman: @ProfRvach blogs on phonological memory & planning, Dodd's inconsistent speech disorder & Core Vocab Tx. http://t.co/qvrXOMlP2d #WeSpeechies
daisy_project
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Only 57% of trache patients with dysphagia were referred to SLT #tracheostomy #wespeechies @RCSLT
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RT @daisy_project: Only 57% of trache patients with dysphagia were referred to SLT #tracheostomy #wespeechies @RCSLT
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@BronwynHemsley Is the #wespeechies chat at 8pm AEST?
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RT @BrigidMcNeill: Calling all #slpeeps 16 Twitter Accounts for Word Nerds http://t.co/Yr3YGMA09x #wespeechies
amcal
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@wespeechies you might want to rethink the cpl hashtag and back to #wespeechies
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@amcal the #WeSpeechies tag is designed for use during the official chat hour :-) otherwise curators can choose whichever tag (Admin ^bh)
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@amcal we also don’t mind if people use the #WeSpeechies tag between chats,although we do have some limits against ‘promo tweets’(admin ^bh)
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RT @BrigidMcNeill: Calling all #slpeeps 16 Twitter Accounts for Word Nerds http://t.co/Yr3YGMA09x #wespeechies
bronwynhemsley
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7.5 hours to #WeSpeechies chat - it’s 8pm BST if you want to talk about phonetics & linguistics!!! follow the tag at 5am AEST for insomniacs
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RT @BronwynHemsley: 7.5 hours to #WeSpeechies chat - it’s 8pm BST if you want to talk about phonetics & linguistics!!! follow the tag at 5am AEST for insomniacs
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RT @BronwynHemsley: 7.5 hours to #WeSpeechies chat - it’s 8pm BST if you want to talk about phonetics & linguistics!!! follow the tag at 5am AEST for insomniacs
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This is terrible! RT @daisy_project Only 57% of trache patients with dysphagia were referred to SLT #tracheostomy #wespeechies @RCSLT
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RT @kimberlyslp: RT @BrigidMcNeill: Calling all #slpeeps 16 Twitter Accounts for Word Nerds http://t.co/0zSBfqBJs5 #wespeechies #words
wespeechies
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@wespeechies @amcal #CPL stands for Clinical Phonetics & Linguistics. As Bronwyn has explained it does not replace the #WeSpeechies one.
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Join the #WeSpeechies chat on Clinical Phonetics & Linguistics for SLT/P practice at 8pm BST today. #SLPeeps #SLP2b http://t.co/ky1XgiUYDZ
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RT @wespeechies: Join the #WeSpeechies chat on Clinical Phonetics & Linguistics for SLT/P practice at 8pm BST today. #SLPeeps #SLP2b http://t.co/ky1XgiUYDZ
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RT @wespeechies: Join the #WeSpeechies chat on Clinical Phonetics & Linguistics for SLT/P practice at 8pm BST today. #SLPeeps #SLP2b http://t.co/ky1XgiUYDZ
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RT @wespeechies: Join the #WeSpeechies chat on Clinical Phonetics & Linguistics for SLT/P practice at 8pm BST today. #SLPeeps #SLP2b http://t.co/ky1XgiUYDZ
speechwoman
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#WeSpeechies Tuesday Chat starts in 15 mins. Questions here: http://t.co/79nVxnLkrA Clinical Linguistics & Phonetics with @NWhitworth1971
speechwoman
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RT @BronwynHemsley: 7.5 hours to #WeSpeechies chat - it’s 8pm BST if you want to talk about phonetics & linguistics!!! follow the tag at 5am AEST for insomniacs
speechwoman
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#WeSpeechies Tuesday Chat starts in 5 mins. Questions here: http://t.co/79nVxnLkrA … Clinical Linguistics & Phonetics with @NWhitworth1971
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Welcome to the #WeSpeechies chat on Clinical Phonetics & Linguistics. The first question is here now & the others follow in 10 min intervals
bronwynhemsley
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@wespeechies @GhadaKhattabSLS easy thing is just to hit reply to Nicole’s question and add the tag #WeSpeechies to your answer :-) good luck
speechwoman
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@BronwynHemsley I'm here. Ready, steady, GO @NWhitworth1971!! #WeSpeechies
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RT @speech_woman: #WeSpeechies Tuesday Chat starts in 5 mins. Questions here: http://t.co/79nVxnLkrA … Clinical Linguistics & Phonetics with @NWhitworth1971
bronwynhemsley
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@wespeechies OK! I’m awake at least my eyes are open. #WeSpeechies
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Q1. Is knowledge of phonetics & linguistics important to practising SLTs/SLPs? How or why is it important? #WeSpeechies
bronwynhemsley
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@speech_woman @NWhitworth1971 wonder who is here with us … shall we see who and where they all are? #WeSpeechies
speechwoman
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@wespeechies A1 Linguistics theory & evidence are at the very core of what we do clinically, & phonetics an indispensable tool. #WeSpeechies
bronwynhemsley
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Head over to #WeSpeechies for a chat about phonetics and linguistics - you know you want to!
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Welcome to the #WeSpeechies chat. Please introduce yourself and tell us a little bit about your background.
speechwoman
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Hi it’s monolingual Caroline in sunny London, heading home to winter in the Blue Mountains at the end of the week. #WeSpeechies @WeSpeechies
bronwynhemsley
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@wespeechies I’m Bronwyn I learnt phonetics from Felicity Bottell a linguist at #USYD about 28 years ago :-) #WeSpeechies
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RT @BronwynHemsley: 7.5 hours to #WeSpeechies chat - it’s 8pm BST if you want to talk about phonetics & linguistics!!! follow the tag at 5am AEST for insomniacs
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A1 @speech_woman What level of phonetic analysis would you recommend to #SLP2b? #WeSpeechies
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@wespeechies welcome all the lurkers - we know you’re there reading! :-) Feel free to chime in esp if this is your first chat! #WeSpeechies
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@wespeechies @GhadaKhattabSLS did you make it to the chat? :-) #WeSpeechies
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@BronwynHemsley What did you do in the meantime? Are you still transcribing regularly? #WeSpeechies
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@speech_woman @wespeechies can't interpret developmental & acquired strengths & weaknesses adequately without this knowledge #WeSpeechies
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RT @wespeechies: Join the #WeSpeechies chat on Clinical Phonetics & Linguistics for SLT/P practice at 8pm BST today. #SLPeeps #SLP2b http://t.co/ky1XgiUYDZ
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RT @camisonup: @speech_woman @wespeechies can't interpret developmental & acquired strengths & weaknesses adequately without this knowledge #WeSpeechies
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@camisonup @speech_woman What might the consequences be of a lack of knowledge/skills? Have you got examples where it helped? #WeSpeechies
bronwynhemsley
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@wespeechies our interviews are transcribed verbatim for content not phonetically so no I haven’t used it since 2001 #WeSpeechies
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Q2. Which areas of phonetics & linguistics are essential & which ones are less relevant to clinical practice? #WeSpeechies
bronwynhemsley
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@GhadaKhattabSLS @wespeechies yes but you do need to add the #WeSpeechies tag to each one
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MT @GhadaKhattabSLS: useful to be able to work at all levels (auditory, acoustic, phonological) even if not used all the time. #WeSpeechies
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RT @camisonup: @speech_woman @wespeechies can't interpret developmental & acquired strengths & weaknesses adequately without this knowledge #WeSpeechies
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RT @wespeechies: Q1. Is knowledge of phonetics & linguistics important to practising SLTs/SLPs? How or why is it important? #WeSpeechies
bronwynhemsley
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@camisonup hi Carol-Anne! just add the #WeSpeechies tag to your answers you’ll be all set @speech_woman
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@BronwynHemsley Verbatim transcription is also a useful skill. The phonetic transcript may target key words only. #WeSpeechies
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@GhadaKhattabSLS remember the tag, (add #WeSpeechies) we need that to include your important info in the transcript later @wespeechies
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RT @GhadaKhattabSLS: @wespeechies what is relevant and what SLTs have time for can be two different things. #WeSpeechies
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@GhadaKhattabSLS Agree. It's also a matter of knowing what tools to use when. Often more difficult skill to acquire. #WeSpeechies
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RT @wespeechies: Join the #WeSpeechies chat on Clinical Phonetics & Linguistics for SLT/P practice at 8pm BST today. #SLPeeps #SLP2b http://t.co/ky1XgiUYDZ
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@GhadaKhattabSLS How can SLTs find the right balance? #WeSpeechies
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MT @camisonup: children with language impairment subtest scores saying 1 thing; linguistically grounded analysis, another #WeSpeechies
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@wespeechies A2 Relevance relates to #WeSpeechies' caseloads/specialisms. Students need a broad background in #CPL to enable choices/options
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MT @GhadaKhattabSLS: Acoustic analysis can be extremely helpful … but our students rarely see it used in clinics #WeSpeechies
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@camisonup Yes. That's where knowledge of linguistics is handy too - evaluating & interpreting test results. #WeSpeechies
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@BronwynHemsley @speech_woman Oops! Not helped by my "wordiness" #WeSpeechies
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@wespeechies A2 Some #WeSpeechies don't see relevance of detailed linguistic assessment/description until we've been in the field for a bit.
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@GhadaKhattabSLS There appears to be a reluctance to use acoustics as the more portable speech analysis systems are quite new. #WeSpeechies
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MT @camisonup: @wespeechies Lecturer in child language disorders to SLTs, researching child language impairment, SLT #WeSpeechies
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@speech_woman Yes. Even more difficult for #SLT2b. But we do get students coming back saying that they now see the relevance. #WeSpeechies
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@GhadaKhattabSLS Many have been trained some time ago and found it difficult to access. #WeSpeechies
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Q3. What are the best methods or resources for teaching clinical linguistics & phonetics? Do we need more resources? #WeSpeechies
camisonup
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@wespeechies @speech_woman Not spotting interactions between semantic knowledge gaps & poor sentence level output#WeSpeechies
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MT @camisonup: @wespeechies @speech_woman Not spotting interactions b/n semantic knowledge gaps & poor sentence level output #WeSpeechies
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How many #WeSpeechies use acoustic analysis in clinic?
speechwoman
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@wespeechies It often starts with ONE client where analysis reveals key information, & #WeSpeechies appreciation of #CPL builds from there.
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@wespeechies A3 I #WeSpeechies are keen to hear how Linguists would answer THOSE Qs. I'm unsure of available methods/resources.What's there?
bronwynhemsley
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@wespeechies has there been research on this (current use in clinic)? #WeSpeechies
bronwynhemsley
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@speech_woman @wespeechies yes I would love too hear from these experts on all of these questions! #WeSpeechies
camisonup
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@wespeechies @speech_woman this background & skill in relevant analysis allows us OMeasures that are ensitive to change #WeSpeechies
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@speech_woman There are limited resources/books aimed specifically at #WeSpeechies.
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@wespeechies A3 Linguistic desc of disordered speech/language must be seen as relevant. #WeSpeechies must know what’s in it for the client.
bronwynhemsley
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@wespeechies is there an online community that is easily accessible? #WeSpeechies @speech_woman
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Many SLT/P phonetics text books are concerned with American accents only which can be confusing for #SLP2b students. #WeSpeechies
bronwynhemsley
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@wespeechies in Australia we have pretty much one accent don’t we @Speech_Woman ? - different in the UK? #WeSpeechies
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@BronwynHemsley @Speech_Woman Yes there are differences, although most of the teaching refers to Received Pronunciation #WeSpeechies
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@wespeechies I am wondering if an online community of practice would also help students to learn (given tele practice now!) #WeSpeechies
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@wespeechies @GhadaKhattabSLS yes! reorienting toward this analysis could have added value;need to create efficient tools #WeSpeechies
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Anyone quietly following #WeSpeechies chat on clinical linguistics & phonetics? We'd love to hear from you! Where are you?What do you do?^cb
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@BronwynHemsley @Speech_Woman The main problem with the American accent for use in the UK is due to American rhoticity #WeSpeechies
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@wespeechies does that change a lot of the transcription beyond /r/ ? #WeSpeechies @Speech_Woman
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RT @camisonup: @wespeechies @BronwynHemsley @speech_woman and Hiberno-English #WeSpeechies
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@BronwynHemsley That would be a good idea, as a central reference point. #WeSpeechies
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But then again, @wespeechies there's Irish, Scottish rhoticity. #WeSpeechies @BronwynHemsley
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Q4. What are the best methods for assessing student or clinician skills in clinical linguistics & phonetics? #WeSpeechies
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@BronwynHemsley I absolutely loved learning phonetics at Uni - my friends in a group helped each other #WeSpeechies
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@BronwynHemsley I found the following page with links to online resources http://t.co/9THKaQI0dD #WeSpeechies
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RT @wespeechies: @BronwynHemsley I found the following page with links to online resources http://t.co/9THKaQI0dD #WeSpeechies
camisonup
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@BronwynHemsley @wespeechies Good idea-perhaps moderated via distance learning to support application while out in clinic #WeSpeechies
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@camisonup @wespeechies Skype with phonetic script in the message section - is this possible? #WeSpeechies
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@wespeechies these days a piece of software on a laptop like PRAAT is enough but not many SLT courses include that in training #WeSpeechies
speechwoman
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@BronwynHemsley @wespeechies This website celebrates the many and varied Australian English "voices" http://t.co/N3SgQJ3A5s #WeSpeechies
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@speech_woman @BronwynHemsley True. There might be differences in teaching in Scotland & Ireland. Anybody chatting tonight? #WeSpeechies
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@wespeechies http://t.co/e1dPmkqobR #WeSpeechies @camisonup @speech_woman
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@speech_woman @wespeechies I can now pick Adelaide thanks to hearing so much of it from certain politicians! #WeSpeechies
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@speech_woman @wespeechies @BronwynHemsley so many regional accents in UK - careful listening & transcription skills vital #WeSpeechies
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@wespeechies through application? Real case data in assignments; students 2 support clinic case presentations w data analysed #WeSpeechies
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@GhadaKhattabSLS ours does, but in #Voice and made very practical @wespeechies #WeSpeechies
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@emmc66 Not to speak of effects of bilingualism. All relevant in assessing what is 'clinical' and what due to other factors. #WeSpeechies
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@wespeechies @speech_woman @BronwynHemsley we learnt to transcribe everyone in our class - accents from all over uk #WeSpeechies
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@camisonup @wespeechies I think this real case data could be beefed up - and brought to life for ALL students (incl non-SLT) #WeSpeechies
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@BronwynHemsley @wespeechies no idea! but would be excellent #WeSpeechies
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@BronwynHemsley @GhadaKhattabSLS We use PRAAT too. But the word needs to get out to clinicians. #WeSpeechies
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@BronwynHemsley @wespeechies that tends to be the area where it's used the most, but useful for linguistic analysis too #WeSpeechies
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That’s lovely! RT @emmc66: @wespeechies @speech_woman we learnt to transcribe everyone in our class - accents from all over uk #WeSpeechies
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RT @emmc66: @wespeechies @speech_woman @BronwynHemsley we learnt to transcribe everyone in our class - accents from all over uk #WeSpeechies
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@wespeechies @GhadaKhattabSLS oh I should have said we have a clinician deliver those lectures Dr Anne Vertigan #WeSpeechies
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@wespeechies @speech_woman @BronwynHemsley I live & work in Ireland #WeSpeechies
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@wespeechies @BronwynHemsley that's right, and that acoustic profiling alone helps, without any measurements when time is short #WeSpeechies
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@camisonup Agree. Real clinical data is important. There's a need for an accessible database for educators. #WeSpeechies
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@GhadaKhattabSLS ok I will have a chat to @JoanneWalters about this! #WeSpeechies @wespeechies
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@ProfRvach @wespeechies I'm not familiar with tablet-based tools but I'm sure it's only a matter of time #WeSpeechies
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@wespeechies @camisonup a database of case samples would be invaluable #WeSpeechies - can it be built internationally?
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@GhadaKhattabSLS @ProfRvach PRAAT is currently not available for tablet devices but it has been promised. #WeSpeechies
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@wespeechies @camisonup CHILDES? http://t.co/byQtJgShiK #WeSpeechies
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@BronwynHemsley @camisonup That would be invaluable. There always seem to be a lot of ethical concerns in the UK at least. #WeSpeechies
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@wespeechies A4 Again, what are the options? #WeSpeechies
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@wespeechies @camisonup it can be done! Is a particular project though so needs funds to build #WeSpeechies
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@BronwynHemsley @wespeechies; case data workshops; S Ebbels v effective Rx requires this; J Webster Gr8t intro in aphasia #WeSpeechies
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@camisonup @speech_woman @BronwynHemsley Do you teach phonetics/phonology on the basis of Irish rhotic accents or RP too? #WeSpeechies
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@BronwynHemsley @emmc66 @wespeechies @speech_woman our peeps do same-several accents in one small country! #WeSpeechies
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@camisonup I love how these chats expose us internationally to terms we’ve never heard! #WeSpeechies @wespeechies @speech_woman
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@speech_woman A4 Best to use real case data. Issue can be that it is too complex, so might need to be made up clinical data. #WeSpeechies
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@speech_woman @wespeechies Yes have used it both for child Lang acq & examples of difficulty (fewer) #WeSpeechies
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@camisonup something Australians often marvel at when working in the UK - at least I did! #WeSpeechies @emmc66 @wespeechies @speech_woman
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@wespeechies "Made up" clinical data? Can you unpack that for #WeSpeechies?
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@camisonup @speech_woman @wespeechies I wonder if the US wide variation in accents is also an issue for students with resources #WeSpeechies
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@speech_woman @wespeechies — is it “simulated”? #WeSpeechies
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@speech_woman It's when you use 'simulated' clinical data which encompasses only 1 or 2 issues. Very tricky to do. #WeSpeechies
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@wespeechies are ‘mild’ issues best? perhaps the youtube self-publishing of data will help with ‘mild’ ?? #WeSpeechies @speech_woman
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@BronwynHemsley @speech_woman Yes and it can go very wrong. But if it's too complex its off-putting in early stages. #WeSpeechies
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@wespeechies do lecturers make use of public’s propensity to video themselves & upload to youtube for examples? #WeSpeechies @speech_woman
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@speech_woman @wespeechies I haven't used entirely "made-up" but have extracted pieces from samples that are too complex #WeSpeechies
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@wespeechies Using phonetic transcription regularly in the clinic can help, and using visible speech can confirm doubts #WeSpeechies
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@camisonup @speech_woman Yes, it doesn't always work for speech. We produce speech samples based on simplified transcriptions. #WeSpeechies
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@camisonup @wespeechies Now I get it, thank you. #WeSpeechies
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@camisonup @speech_woman For example, we ask students to transcribe a target word & then substitute part of the word. #WeSpeechies
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What about the time issue in clinic. We're often told that there just isn't time to produce a linguistic/phonetic analysis. #WeSpeechies
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Is this the same outside of the UK? #WeSpeechies
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@wespeechies This is a perennial assessment problem. Big tendency to screen and not do in-depth ax across the board. #WeSpeechies
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@wespeechies time is a ‘blanket barrier’ that is given in relation to almost any activity that ‘takes more time’. Straw man. #WeSpeechies
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@wespeechies @speech_woman @BronwynHemsley IPA; Hiberno; RP; varieties; excellent Newcastle uni (Docherty & Khattab) resources #WeSpeechies
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@BronwynHemsley @camisonup @wespeechies @speech_woman our fab lecturer even got us to compare Liverpool and Birkenhead accents #WeSpeechies
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@speech_woman do those who take the time report it being worthy and beneficial? #WeSpeechies @wespeechies
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Anybody got any ideas how we can circumvent this. There's consultancy but that will only raise a funding issue. #WeSpeechies
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@wespeechies In my experience AU CA NZ MY SG PH US HK IE PT etc. Can seem full assessment is too much trouble, I hate to say. #WeSpeechies
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@BronwynHemsley @speech_woman Good point. Sara Howard (Sheffield Uni) reports some time saving due to deep analysis. #WeSpeechies
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@wespeechies remember, sometimes it is time that is described as the barrier, but the barrier may be something else. #WeSpeechies
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@wespeechies I appreciate the time pressure, even some of our best students feel held back by this when they start a new job #WeSpeechies
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@wespeechies @speech_woman exactly! usually, it is not lack of time that is the barrier but rather attitudes/knowledge/skills #WeSpeechies
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@BronwynHemsley @wespeechies Definitely! But clinicians don't write this stuff up for publication, so we don't hear about it. #WeSpeechies
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@BronwynHemsley I suppose it's down to habit & why take on extra work when things seem to be functioning alright. #WeSpeechies
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@speech_woman @BronwynHemsley Perhaps academics & clinicians need to get together to write stuff. Joint publications for EBP #WeSpeechies
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{{{thinks}}} ROUTINELY allocating time for full assessment & report would be a good #WeSpeechies Blue Sky Wednesday theme. But I digress.
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@wespeechies but in order to explain and not just describe client's output only linguistic/phonetic analysis will help #WeSpeechies
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@speech_woman I try to teach students to use it selectively. Which has its own dangers but seems to be reasonable compromise. #WeSpeechies
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@BronwynHemsley @wespeechies @speech_woman Y. ? If formal tests have too much authority; some SLpeeps then feel "deskilled" #WeSpeechies
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Thanks for great chat handling @NWhitworth1971 and thanks to all our chatters! #WeSpeechies ^bh
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@speech_woman It's also about protecting the profession from erosion due to skill diffusion. #WeSpeechies
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Goodnight #WeSpeechies. Thanks for a stimulating chat @NWhitworth1971 @wespeechies @BronwynHemsley and everyone! Blue Sky Wed tomorrow!
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Thank you very much for participating. Goodnight (and good morning to some of you). #WeSpeechies
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@wespeechies @speech_woman Y. Yes V important! we have unique CLP knowledge & skills 4 looking past surface, need 2 use these #WeSpeechies
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@wespeechies @speech_woman depends if full assessment will alter therapy - if you know straight away, then act not assess #WeSpeechies
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RT @BronwynHemsley: @wespeechies time is a ‘blanket barrier’ that is given in relation to almost any activity that ‘takes more time’. Straw man. #WeSpeechies
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@wespeechies @BronwynHemsley & http://t.co/gCYlK00via Languages of LARSP, ? closest tool we have capturing "constructions" #WeSpeechies 1/2
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@wespeechies @BronwynHemsley & can learn a lot re client with even a limited sample 2/2 #WeSpeechies
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RT @camisonup: @wespeechies @BronwynHemsley & http://t.co/gCYlK00via Languages of LARSP, ? closest tool we have capturing "constructions" #WeSpeechies 1/2
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So good to see so many #wespeechies, #OTpeeps and parents working collaboratively in Tasmania #Zyteq

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