#WeSpeechies transcript

Healthcare Social Media Transcript

From: Tue Jul 29 0:00:00 PDT 2014
To: Tue Jul 29 23:00:00 PDT 2014

What is #WeSpeechies? Who were the influencers during this time period? #WeSpeechies analytics


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bronwynhemsley
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#WeSpeechies transcript on #WaitTimes http://t.co/SiKbeBihjp ping @speech_woman @ProfRvach wanted whole week in this one.
bronwynhemsley
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Analytics #WaitTimes a discussion that lasted a week recently, #RoCur by @ProfRvach http://t.co/GefZ25ycuU #WeSpeechies ping @speech_woman
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RT @wespeechies: Our petition has moved! http://t.co/BYmoihBXL6 via @ChangeAUS @ICP2014 #WeSpeechies #SLPeeps #SLP2B **Please retweet and promote #ICP2014**
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RT @keenCOTA: #WeSpeechies Controversial Practices in SLP/SLT chat http://t.co/EyepoVmjmJ Tuesday29July 8pm SAST via @TG_AT & @wespeechies
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@BronwynHemsley THX for @symplur analytics & transcript of @ProfRvach's WAIT TIMES week as #WeSpeechies #RoCur. Here: http://t.co/K5sGkJVUS3
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Hey, #WeSpeechies, #SLPeeps, #SLP2B, look who our INFLUENCERS were last week w/ @ProfRvach! http://t.co/tsVUupAmWi http://t.co/aZ2tft99As
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MT @wespeechies: @symplur analytics & transcript of @ProfRvach's WAIT TIMES week as #WeSpeechies #RoCur. Here: http://t.co/SkU3zhd10Y
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RT @wespeechies: Our petition has moved! http://t.co/BYmoihBXL6 via @ChangeAUS @ICP2014 #WeSpeechies #SLPeeps #SLP2B **Please retweet and promote #ICP2014**
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RT @wespeechies: Our petition has moved! http://t.co/BYmoihBXL6 via @ChangeAUS @ICP2014 #WeSpeechies #SLPeeps #SLP2B **Please retweet and promote #ICP2014**
lissbee_cpsp
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MT @wespeechies: Read about #WeSpeechies' topic, Controversial Practices in SLP/SLT: http://t.co/ttWdNz1Fww & Tuesday 29th Chat 8-9pm SAST
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Yes, thank you @Suze_Freogirl, #WeSpeechies have a FUNDAMENTAL PROFESSIONAL RESPONSIBLITY to display INTEGRITY and be ETHICAL @SpeechPathAus
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RT @wespeechies: Nearly bedtime here in ZA, but first, #WeSpeechies would love to hear your thoughts re ethical issues around non-EBP. http://t.co/EJmyb8PpvU
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#E3BP & Controversial Practices: "____ intervention works for me" Discuss, #WeSpeechies #SLPeeps @SLP2B @speechBITE @cochranecollab
suze_freogirl
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RT @wespeechies: #E3BP & Controversial Practices: "____ intervention works for me" Discuss, #WeSpeechies #SLPeeps @SLP2B @speechBITE @cochranecollab
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#E3BP & Controversial Practices: "I don't know why __ works, but it does" Discuss, #WeSpeechies #SLPeeps @SLP2B @speechBITE @cochranecollab
lissbee_cpsp
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MT @wespeechies: #E3BP & Controversial Practices: "I don't NEED evidence that _ works because it does" Discuss #SLPeeps #wespeechies #slp2bs
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Ever feel #WeSpeechies are singing to the choir @Suze_Freogirl @meganleece @tricmc @speechBITE @BronwynHemsley? #E3BP http://t.co/Zf4XL3FHQ6
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RT @wespeechies: Ever feel #WeSpeechies are singing to the choir @Suze_Freogirl @meganleece @tricmc @speechBITE @BronwynHemsley? #E3BP http://t.co/Zf4XL3FHQ6
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RT @wespeechies: Yes, thank you @Suze_Freogirl, #WeSpeechies have a FUNDAMENTAL PROFESSIONAL RESPONSIBLITY to display INTEGRITY and be ETHICAL @SpeechPathAus
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RT @wespeechies: #E3BP & Controversial Practices: "I don't know why __ works, but it does" Discuss, #WeSpeechies #SLPeeps @SLP2B @speechBITE @cochranecollab
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#WeSpeechies Chat 8-9pm Tu29 Jul SAST 7-8pm Tu29 Jul BST 4-5am Wed30 Jul AEST Controversial Practices ABOUT THE CHAT http://t.co/qg5L74qpmj
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@gailbennell #WeSpeechies Chat 8-9pm Tu29 Jul SAST 7-8pm Tu29 Jul BST 4-5am Wed30 Jul AEST Controversial Practices http://t.co/RQgPD1iF8Z
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#WeSpeechies'll miss you @Suze_Freogirl but it's a very early hour in Western Australia.Will continue the convo tomoz. @speech_woman @talkds
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Nice to hear YOUR voice in #WeSpeechies' Chorale, @EmmaMcLTU! @Suze_Freogirl @meganleece @tricmc @speechBITE @BronwynHemsley @rachyroo1972
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@talkds Correct me if I'm wrong, #WeSpeechies, #SLPeeps, but PROMPT is usually delivered by an SLP. @PromptInstitute @Apraxia_KIDS @tricmc
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#WeSpeechies invite @TalkTools, @pammarshalla, and everyone interested in E3BP to join our chat in 4.5 hours time. http://t.co/RQgPD1iF8Z
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RT @wespeechies: Newspaper report via MT @ZyteqAT: #Literacy for all especially #AAC users! http://t.co/gNOjd7LUYm. #wespeechies #slpeeps #AugComm ^bh
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4 hours until #WeSpeechies Chat 8-9pm Tu29Jul SAST 7-8pm Tu29Jul BST 4-5am Wed30 Jul AEST Controversial Practices http://t.co/qg5L74qpmj
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RT @wespeechies: 4 hours until #WeSpeechies Chat 8-9pm Tu29Jul SAST 7-8pm Tu29Jul BST 4-5am Wed30 Jul AEST Controversial Practices http://t.co/qg5L74qpmj
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RT @wespeechies: 4 hours until #WeSpeechies Chat 8-9pm Tu29Jul SAST 7-8pm Tu29Jul BST 4-5am Wed30 Jul AEST Controversial Practices http://t.co/qg5L74qpmj
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#WeSpeechies Chat in 1 hour 8-9pm Tu29Jul SAST 7-8pm Tu29Jul BST IST 4-5am Wed30 Jul AEST Controversial Practices http://t.co/RQgPD1iF8Z
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RT @wespeechies: #WeSpeechies Chat in 1 hour 8-9pm Tu29Jul SAST 7-8pm Tu29Jul BST IST 4-5am Wed30 Jul AEST Controversial Practices http://t.co/RQgPD1iF8Z
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@ASLTIP_UK (1) Affiliate Membership @ASHAWeb http://t.co/EimPPcrcXk (2) Laptop/MacBookPro (3) http://t.co/uk35H2B6pp (4) #WeSpeechies & Twtr
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RT @speech_woman: @ASLTIP_UK (1) Affiliate Membership @ASHAWeb http://t.co/EimPPcrcXk (2) Laptop/MacBookPro (3) http://t.co/uk35H2B6pp (4) #WeSpeechies & Twtr
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. @QMULRC Thank you for re-tweeting! Chat begins in 40 minutes from now. http://t.co/RQgPD1iF8Z Follow the #WeSpeechies hashtag 8-9pm SAST.
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Thanks @speech_woman @azspeechguy for sharing your top resources. What about other #slpeeps? #wespeechies?
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What other school-based #slpeeps and #wespeechies are already back in the saddle, prepping for the year? Here I sit, but it feels surreal.
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RT @ASLTIP_UK: Thanks @speech_woman @azspeechguy for sharing your top resources. What about other #slpeeps? #wespeechies?
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RT @ASLTIP_UK: Thanks @speech_woman @azspeechguy for sharing your top resources. What about other #slpeeps? #wespeechies?
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RT @wespeechies: 4 hours until #WeSpeechies Chat 8-9pm Tu29Jul SAST 7-8pm Tu29Jul BST 4-5am Wed30 Jul AEST Controversial Practices http://t.co/qg5L74qpmj
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RT @CrissXAppleSaus: What other school-based #slpeeps and #wespeechies are already back in the saddle, prepping for the year? Here I sit, but it feels surreal.
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RT @CrissXAppleSaus: What other school-based #slpeeps and #wespeechies are already back in the saddle, prepping for the year? Here I sit, but it feels surreal.
macnaomi
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The @wespeechies chat is on at 1 pm Central time (Chicago) re controversial practices in SLP. Follow #wespeechies
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Thanks @MacNaomi #WeSpeechies hope for more US CA participation than usual at this time of day. Aussies are mostly sleeping as you know.
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RT @wespeechies: 4 hours until #WeSpeechies Chat 8-9pm Tu29Jul SAST 7-8pm Tu29Jul BST 4-5am Wed30 Jul AEST Controversial Practices http://t.co/qg5L74qpmj
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RT @wespeechies: #WeSpeechies Chat in 1 hour 8-9pm Tu29Jul SAST 7-8pm Tu29Jul BST IST 4-5am Wed30 Jul AEST Controversial Practices http://t.co/RQgPD1iF8Z
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Joining #wespeechies chat @TomSatherSLP @NWhitworth1971 @nancyjowens @SymphonyUK @jenya_iuzzini @ProfRvach @MacNaomi @deevybee @avrilnicoll
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RT @wespeechies: Joining #wespeechies chat @TomSatherSLP @NWhitworth1971 @nancyjowens @SymphonyUK @jenya_iuzzini @ProfRvach @MacNaomi @deevybee @avrilnicoll
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RT @wespeechies: . @QMULRC Thank you for re-tweeting! Chat begins in 40 minutes from now. http://t.co/RQgPD1iF8Z Follow the #WeSpeechies hashtag 8-9pm SAST.
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RT @wespeechies: #WeSpeechies Chat in 1 hour 8-9pm Tu29Jul SAST 7-8pm Tu29Jul BST IST 4-5am Wed30 Jul AEST Controversial Practices http://t.co/RQgPD1iF8Z
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RT @wespeechies: #WeSpeechies Chat in 1 hour 8-9pm Tu29Jul SAST 7-8pm Tu29Jul BST IST 4-5am Wed30 Jul AEST Controversial Practices http://t.co/RQgPD1iF8Z
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SLT Claire Goodwin aka @bake_therapist competing in the forthcoming series of #GBBO14 - good luck Claire #WeSpeechies have many talents
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RT @speech_woman: @ASLTIP_UK (1) Affiliate Membership @ASHAWeb http://t.co/EimPPcrcXk (2) Laptop/MacBookPro (3) http://t.co/uk35H2B6pp (4) #WeSpeechies & Twtr
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RT @MacNaomi: The @wespeechies chat is on at 1 pm Central time (Chicago) re controversial practices in SLP. Follow #wespeechies
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thinking I might benefit from chocolate & caffeine for the #wespeechies chat... that would be controversial in vocal hygiene circles
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Welcome to #WeSpeechies Chat #SLPeeps & #SLP2B/s. Hard to believe it's Chat 22! Please introduce yourself & say where in the world you are.
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Remember to tag your tweets with the #WeSpeechies #-tag so @BronwynHemsley can do the @symplur Analytics & Transcript at the end of the hour
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I'm Caroline Bowen @speech_woman this week's #WeSpeechies Rotating Curator (#RoCur), far from my Australian home @UKZN, Durban South Africa.
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#WeSpeechies hope this Chat time will be a good for S.African, British & Irish #SLPeeps & #SLP2B/s. Say hello, do! @RCSLT @IASLT @ASLTIP_UK
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@wespeechies Hi! Tom, London, UK. Not actually Speechie, linguist by training, researcher / Healthcare Scientist by profession #wespeechies
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@wespeechies I'm Angela, an early-childhood based #wespeechies in the Kansas City, Missouri area, in total denial that I'm in office today.
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Hi Tom - @TG_AT you're @GreatOrmondSt, aren't you? #WeSpeechies
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Welcome @CrissXAppleSaus - is this your first #WeSpeechies Chat?
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Kelley Babcock from Nashville, TN. I'm a lover of all things dysphagia, voice and H&N cancer #wespeechies
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@wespeechies @TG_AT Not today - representing me and only me ;-) All views my own etc. #wespeechies
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Any other UK #WeSpeechies there for our chat (7:00pm to 8:00pm BST Tues 29 July?
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Any Irish #WeSpeechies there for our chat (7:00pm to 8:00pm IST Tues 29 July?
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Any South African #WeSpeechies there for our chat (8:00pm to 9:00pm AEST Tues 29 July?
nikkiheyman
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Evening all. Looking forward to an interesting topic tonight #wespeechies
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@wespeechies It is my first "live" participation; usually I'm in tx at this time, but not today! I often read the #wespeechies recap.
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RT @wespeechies: Any other UK #WeSpeechies there for our chat (7:00pm to 8:00pm BST Tues 29 July?
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#WeSpeechies will fall of her Twitter perch if Australian or New Zealand #SLPeeps #SLP2B/s participate at this hour. Any early-birds there?
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RT @wespeechies: #WeSpeechies hope this Chat time will be a good for S.African, British & Irish #SLPeeps & #SLP2B/s. Say hello, do! @RCSLT @IASLT @ASLTIP_UK
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Hi all, I'm Naomi. I'm doing a postdoc in otolaryngology in Madison, Wisconsin. #wespeechies
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I wonder if #WeSpeechies will have the pleasure of the company of many US & CA #SLPeeps, #SLP2B/s? @ASHAWeb @SAC_OAC @bcaslpa @ProfRvach
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Our topic is Controversial Practices in #WeSpeechies' field. The details are here: http://t.co/RQgPD1iF8Z #E3BP @speechBITE @nancyjowens
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Here comes Question 1. Remember to tag your Tweets with #WeSpeechies and include A1 in your reply to Q1.
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Q1 Which controversial practice(s) impact your capacity to perform your #WeSpeechies’ work? Are they simply an annoyance, or more than that?
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RT @CrissXAppleSaus: @wespeechies It is my first "live" participation; usually I'm in tx at this time, but not today! I often read the #wespeechies recap.
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@wespeechies #WeSpeechies Hello yes -my first chat, ready with fingers on keys, trying to engage brain...
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#WeSpeechies Hi all, Nikki from the US here, currently just an #slp2b so will be mostly silently lurking and learning :)
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. @flackp1 Hi Penny in beautiful Durban (Hi beautiful Penny in Durban -YES). Are there practices that impinge on your work? #WeSpeechies
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Hello @Bethan1967, where are you? #WeSpeechies
kelleybabcock
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A1: NMES, DPNS, NSOMEs. Improper treatment modalities slow recovery in Pts & waste visits. #wespeechies
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@wespeechies A1 My team is asked a lot about NS-oral-motor work for children with physical disability, or many are using it #wespeechies
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A1: Only controversial practice I've encountered is oral motor exercises for artic. But I can't say they impact my capacity. #wespeechies
bethan1967
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@wespeechies Caernarfon. North west Wales #wespeechies
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Q1 Which controversial practice(s) impact your capacity to perform your #WeSpeechies’ work? Are they annoying, or more than that?
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@Bethan1967 Cymru am Byth #WeSpeechies
kelleybabcock
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A1. Often Pts will come in requesting certain tx modalities which we have to turn down. It disrupts the trust relationship #wespeechies
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@CrissXAppleSaus Either will do. Doesn't make any difference. #WeSpeechies
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. @wespeechies A1Seems like NSOME is a big factor. How do practices like talktools compare? #wespeechies
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RT @wespeechies: I'm Caroline Bowen @speech_woman this week's #WeSpeechies Rotating Curator (#RoCur), far from my Australian home @UKZN, Durban South Africa.
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. @MacNaomi Do #WeSpeechies (present company excepted) STILL do brushing & icing (PNF)??!! #WeSpeechies
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@wespeechies A1.herbal supplements that "improve reading"- very difficult to know what to say to parents who fall for ads #WeSpeechies
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@wespeechies A1: I am curious to know more about issues/concerns and research on telepractice. Seems like a big one, to me, #wespeechies
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Hi @ChillyRomzy I believe you are the first person lacerated in #Nigeria ever to take part in a #WeSpeechies chat.
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. @wespeechies in my personal experience... yes #wespeechies
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@wespeechies @MacNaomi oh lots of icing is still happening in #dysphagia #wespeechies
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RT @flackp1: @wespeechies A1.herbal supplements that "improve reading"- very difficult to know what to say to parents who fall for ads #WeSpeechies
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RT @wespeechies: #WeSpeechies hope this Chat time will be a good for S.African, British & Irish #SLPeeps & #SLP2B/s. Say hello, do! @RCSLT @IASLT @ASLTIP_UK
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A1 @flackp1 In 140 characters, what DO you say? #WeSpeechies
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Here comes Question 2. Remember to tag your Tweets with #WeSpeechies and include A2 in your reply to Q2.
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You can still respond to Q1 #WeSpeechies
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Q2. Have you had any “wins” in changing policy, or even changing one person’s mind about employing a controversial approach? #WeSpeechies
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.@CrissXAppleSaus this is big focus of research at University of Queensland-Deb Thedoros, Anne Hill, Liz Ward among others #wespeechies
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@wespeechies Q1 #wespeechies used to see lots of kids w oral motor goals but in last 5 years diminished quite a bit! Greg Lof had impact!
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@wespeechies @MacNaomi I've used brushing/icing in tx. Do I think it helped? Can't say it did NOT. Used it w/ other strategies. #wespeechies
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RT @Lincolnfan60: @wespeechies Q1 #wespeechies used to see lots of kids w oral motor goals but in last 5 years diminished quite a bit! Greg Lof had impact!
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A1 - If 'controversial' is based on lack of high level evidence... how do we view voice therapy... #wespeechies
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Q2: after gaining MDs respect, he approached me about NMES. Had opportunity to show him research & ID most appropriate Pts. #wespeechies
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. @CrissXAppleSaus If you used it with other interventions t'would be impossible to tease out the active ingredient. #WeSpeechies @MacNaomi
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@MacNaomi I think "controversial" implies discredited, debunked, non-evidence based AND theoretically unsound. #WeSpeechies
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A2 Can be helpful to talk about time-benefit ratio with families when discussing low-evidence interventions #wespeechies
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@MacNaomi yikes. Well we really love LSVT! In regards to hyperfxn, we rely more on clinical training/historical approaches #wespeechies
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. @TG_AT That's a helpful thought. #WeSpeechies
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@wespeechies Hope this silence in the twittersphere is due to tech challenges + not a depressing /resounding “no” in to Q 2!#WeSpeechies
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.@wespeechies like the example on you tube of using wasabi to treat spasmodic dysphonia...! #wespeechies
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@wespeechies A2: I've been able to explain why oral motor is not helpful for artic. Some understand, some still want it. #WeSpeechies
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@wespeechies @MacNaomi hmmm I wouldn't have attached that exact definition to "controversial" #wespeechies
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RT @wespeechies: Q2. Have you had any “wins” in changing policy, or even changing one person’s mind about employing a controversial approach? #WeSpeechies
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RT @wespeechies: Q1 Which controversial practice(s) impact your capacity to perform your #WeSpeechies’ work? Are they simply an annoyance, or more than that?
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RT @flackp1: @wespeechies Hope this silence in the twittersphere is due to tech challenges + not a depressing /resounding “no” in to Q 2!#WeSpeechies
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@wespeechies “If we’ve got 2 hours each week, what would we most want to spend our time working on?” Useful for NSOMEs vs #AAC #wespeechies
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. @KelleyBabcock How would you define it in THIS #WeSpeechies context? @MacNaomi
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A2: Data collection progress towards the goal with different strategies is important for #WeSpeechies to gather. Data speaks.
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RT @TG_AT: @wespeechies “If we’ve got 2 hours each week, what would we most want to spend our time working on?” Useful for NSOMEs vs #AAC #wespeechies
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@wespeechies @MacNaomi if I had known that was the premise we were operating under, my previous answers would be different. #wespeechies
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@wespeechies Sorry I'm joining the chat late #WeSpeechies
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@wespeechies A2 Doesn’t dismiss other intervention, allows parents / children to be active participants, to “own" the choice. #wespeechies
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A2 #wespeechies It is difficult, particularly with historical tech's and respected senior clinicians. Refer to contemp. research my approach
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. @KelleyBabcock No worries - pleased to have your input. @MacNaomi #WeSpeechies
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RT @TG_AT: @wespeechies “If we’ve got 2 hours each week, what would we most want to spend our time working on?” Useful for NSOMEs vs #AAC #wespeechies
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@wespeechies I was with @MacNaomi, lack of high level evidence. #wespeechies
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A2 Think helpful to first understand why from their perspective. Thought-provoking article here: (£) http://t.co/fXoHE9lRd0 #wespeechies
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Hi @WeSpeechies sorry to miss most of the chat #WeSpeechies
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@wespeechies A1 In my dept 'icing' is really the only thing thought of whenever I raise issue of dysphagia Tx #wespeechies
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Welcome @Kamigoto (Wherae are you?) and @BronwynHemsley #WeSpeechies admin in Australia!
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RT @MacNaomi: A2 #wespeechies It is difficult, particularly with historical tech's and respected senior clinicians. Refer to contemp. research my approach
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@KelleyBabcock me neither, to me controversial can also imply a stack of evidence one way or another!:-) @wespeechies @MacNaomi #WeSpeechies
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.@avrilnicoll re alt therapies, research from Hong Kong is showing beneficial results for acupuncture and voice disorders #wespeechies
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@wespeechies @MacNaomi Think "controversial" implies some room for disagreement; debunked,/unsound/discredited suggest not #WeSpeechies
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Here comes Question 3. Remember to tag your Tweets with #WeSpeechies and include A3 in your reply to Q3. I KEEP forgetting - my bad :(
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RT @flackp1: @wespeechies @MacNaomi Think "controversial" implies some room for disagreement; debunked,/unsound/discredited suggest not #WeSpeechies
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@KelleyBabcock but I dispute the term ‘controversial’ when there is +++ research evidence against @wespeechies @MacNaomi #WeSpeechies
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Q3 Is it difficult to speak out? Are there penalties for #WeSpeechies who challenge the ethicality/effectiveness of controversial practices?
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.@wespeechies Is baby sign language considered under controversial practices @KarenSlpath #wespeechies
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@wespeechies A2 P2/2 was told by senior clinicians 'we do it' and when I asked why was told 'we've done it in the past' #wespeechies
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@flackp1 yes controversial implies that but it has come to mean it’s not okay to dispute it #WeSpeechies @wespeechies @MacNaomi
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@wespeechies Thanks for the welcome. I'm in Scotland :-) #wespeechies
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RT @wespeechies: Q3 Is it difficult to speak out? Are there penalties for #WeSpeechies who challenge the ethicality/effectiveness of controversial practices?
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. @BronwynHemsley & I agree with you but stuck with CONTROVERSIAL because I think most #WeSpeechies know that term @KelleyBabcock @MacNaomi
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As per usual #WeSpeechies discuss what terms mean - all different things to different people! :-) Who will write a paper on this?
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I'm finding this very amusing that the term 'controversial' is turning out to be 'controversial' in itself! #wespeechies
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@BronwynHemsley @KelleyBabcock @wespeechies @MacNaomi There can be distinction made btw “controversial” & “contested”, perhaps? #wespeechies
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RT @KelleyBabcock: @BronwynHemsley @wespeechies @MacNaomi yes, in that case debunked/inappropriate is only appropriate term #WeSpeechies
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@BronwynHemsley @KelleyBabcock @MacNaomi yes that’s true it has come to mean ‘against the evidence base but used anyway’ #WeSpeechies
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@wespeechies A3 I find it v hard. I'm a relatively new SLT working c 2 SLTs c 25+years experience. P1/2 #wespeechies
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A3 It is our ethical duty as uniquely and highly qualified #wespeechies to speak out and challenge our own practices, collect data, share.
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My goodness @Kamigoto we have quite an international representation of #WeSpeechies in Chat 22. Scotland =wonderful commonwealth games host!
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@BronwynHemsley oops that previous tweet was from ^bh #JetLagged @KelleyBabcock @MacNaomi #WeSpeechies
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@wespeechies A3 P2/2 When I ask Qs re ?outdated practices it can be taken personally and auto-assumed I'm wrong. #wespeechies
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A3 Can you unpack that a little for #WeSpeechies @Kamigoto? Do you have seniors who implement discredited/debunked therapies?
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@BronwynHemsley @wespeechies @MacNaomi we need to be differentiate between scientifically unsound vs lack of evidence YET... #WeSpeechies
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RT @Kamigoto: @wespeechies A3 P2/2 When I ask Qs re ?outdated practices it can be taken personally and auto-assumed I'm wrong. #wespeechies
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@wespeechies P3 V.frustrating. I was trained to ALWAYS look atEB but in practice just expected to do what's always been done #wespeechies
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@MacNaomi perhaps like many other terms when we use it we need to define what we mean #WeSpeechies
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A3 Raising ?s does not equate disrespect. Rather, an openness to explore. Seek answers, improve. Effectiveness over efficiency. #WeSpeechies
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.@Kamigoto similar experience with tracheostomy mgt & swallowing trials. Big impact on pt quality of life. I rocked the boat! #wespeechies
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@wespeechies @Kamigoto I did when I first started out. Often people know something is controversial, but don't want to address #WeSpeechies
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@wespeechies Thanks! Yes, it's been going v. well so far! Happy to have the eyes of the world on us! #Glasgow2014 #ComeOnIn #wespeechies
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A3 Is that @Kamigoto disillusioning? #WeSpeechies
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RT @MacNaomi: .@Kamigoto similar experience with tracheostomy mgt & swallowing trials. Big impact on pt quality of life. I rocked the boat! #wespeechies
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RT @KelleyBabcock: @wespeechies @Kamigoto I did when I first started out. Often people know something is controversial, but don't want to address #WeSpeechies
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Here comes Question 4. Tag your Tweets with #WeSpeechies and include A4 in your reply to Q4. Do what I say, not what I do #hangshead
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@wespeechies Very. Don't want to sound -ve but often feels like a mountain to climb. Just want to do best for my Pts #wespeechies
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@Kamigoto Good for you! Good to hear, eh #WeSpeechies
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A3 -asking q's which may expose flaws in established practice is often not welcome - even if done in appropriate manner #wespeechies
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Q4 How confident are you that #WeSpeechies CAN change the status quo? What have you done to counter controversial practices at your work?
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@MacNaomi @wespeechies Now I have more experience I'm starting to do what *I* feel is best (based on EB). The boat's rocking! #wespeechies
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@Kamigoto @MacNaomi A4. I have a penchant for ROCKING THE ORAL MOTOR BOAT. #WeSpeechies
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A4 #wespeechies very confident! I'm fortunate to be in research position, so working to provide evidence for clinicians.
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Someone posted this quote earlier in the week & I LOVE IT! #WeSpeechies http://t.co/aJ7poarD7U
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. @Kamigoto A2 ... and you said ... #WeSpeechies
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@wespeechies A4 I'm trying to show senior colleagues I'm not criticising *them* - just that time / evidence has changed #wespeechies
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RT @KelleyBabcock: Someone posted this quote earlier in the week & I LOVE IT! #WeSpeechies http://t.co/aJ7poarD7U
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RT @KelleyBabcock: Someone posted this quote earlier in the week & I LOVE IT! #WeSpeechies http://t.co/aJ7poarD7U
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@MacNaomi @flackp1 I guess I think all intervention is (potentially) controversial - evidence always partial & fallible #wespeechies
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A4 Fantastic response, @MacNaomi How would you advise a "new" clinician (NQT) in a one-down position? #WeSpeechies
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RT @wespeechies: Here comes Question 4. Tag your Tweets with #WeSpeechies and include A4 in your reply to Q4. Do what I say, not what I do #hangshead
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@wespeechies A2 P1 That I couldn't find any evidence other than it was contra-indicated and increases fatigue (& dysarthria) #wespeechies
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RT @wespeechies: Q4 How confident are you that #WeSpeechies CAN change the status quo? What have you done to counter controversial practices at your work?
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A4: Over the yrs I've compiled research that supports my practice & informs on controversial ones. I'm always ready to share! #WeSpeechies
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@avrilnicoll @MacNaomi @flackp1 which is why Clinical Guidelines are so important,weight of evidence can be taken in to account #WeSpeechies
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@wespeechies A2 P2 Senior SLT quoted 1 US source I'd also seen online which said suitable when Pt in remission but NO evidence #wespeechies
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@avrilnicoll @MacNaomi @flackp1 so so true. We shouldn't dispose of our clinical judgement in favor of evidence or a new study #wespeechies
kamigoto
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@wespeechies A2 P3 Conversation has had no resolution. I still feel not appropriate but still under expectation to deliver Tx #wespeechies
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Was it easy to find the words @Lincolnfan60? #WeSpeechies we should talk abt this more in a few hrs time. How you state your view = crucial
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@KelleyBabcock @wespeechies I think I might print this out and stick it up somewhere prominent at work!! #wespeechies #RockingTheBoat
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5 minutes until #WeSpeechies chat ends. If you're listening, not tweeting, let us know you're here. for the record. Just say hi or something
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@wespeechies A4.sad to say some (many?)clinicians not reading research, just following uncritically/ buying in to popular press #WeSpeechies
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@MacNaomi on-down position = subordinate #WeSpeechies
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RT @flackp1: @wespeechies A4.sad to say some (many?)clinicians not reading research, just following uncritically/ buying in to popular press #WeSpeechies
learnhospice
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@wespeechies hi! #wespeechies
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@MacNaomi one-down position = subordinate #WeSpeechies
kamigoto
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I always feel inspired hearing the great work being done by @wespeechies Maybe more 'wins' for EBP in the future?! #wespeechies
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Thanks for saying hi, @learnhospice #WeSpeechies
kelleybabcock
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@Kamigoto @wespeechies don't get thrown out of the boat, tho. Do homework & find more research to support ur ideas, then share #wespeechies
nikkiheyman
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.@wespeechies are there any other SA speechies here? #wespeechies
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RT @Kamigoto: I always feel inspired hearing the great work being done by @wespeechies Maybe more 'wins' for EBP in the future?! #wespeechies
bethan1967
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.@wespeechies Have been listening but haven't felt able to contribute. #wespeechies
learnhospice
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@wespeechies often lurk with u #wespeechies out of my comfort zone but v interested
nikkiheyman
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RT @flackp1: @wespeechies A4.sad to say some (many?)clinicians not reading research, just following uncritically/ buying in to popular press #WeSpeechies
kamigoto
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@KelleyBabcock @wespeechies Great advice! Finding time for research ++hard but *know* using EB is only way to change things. #wespeechies
kelleybabcock
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@flackp1 @wespeechies so common in the US. Love that twitter is connecting us to good resources such as #WeSpeechies & #researchtues
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Hi @aesharp #WeSpeechies
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Thank you for participating in #WeSpeechies' 22nd Chat. See you for Blue Sky Wednesday! Keep the conversations going! #SLPeeps #ICP2014
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RT @KelleyBabcock: @flackp1 @wespeechies so common in the US. Love that twitter is connecting us to good resources such as #WeSpeechies & #researchtues
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@wespeechies Thanks for a very interesting hour! #wespeechies
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I am having a change of skies (and weather) on Wed 30, flying from Durban to Cape Town to talk to >126 #WeSpeechies. Back to @UKZN on Aug 3.
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Practitioners do not knowingly administer ineffective, time-wasting treatment, do they, #WeSpeechies
crissxapplesaus
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@KelleyBabcock @wespeechies Most definitely goes along with another dangerous phrase/justification, #wespeechies: http://t.co/s1OVBLfi5D
avrilnicoll
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RT @TG_AT: A2 Can be helpful to talk about time-benefit ratio with families when discussing low-evidence interventions #wespeechies
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Imagine a world where practice is always theoretically sound, evidence based or both. #WeSpeechies http://t.co/IUS0EXlBqF
macnaomi
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Love to see protected research time in clinical positions be std. Not only build evidence base, but 'mantra' for practice #wespeechies
avrilnicoll
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RT @TG_AT: @wespeechies A2 Doesn’t dismiss other intervention, allows parents / children to be active participants, to “own" the choice. #wespeechies
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RT @CrissXAppleSaus: @KelleyBabcock @wespeechies Most definitely goes along with another dangerous phrase/justification, #wespeechies: http://t.co/s1OVBLfi5D
avrilnicoll
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RT @BronwynHemsley: As per usual #WeSpeechies discuss what terms mean - all different things to different people! :-) Who will write a paper on this?
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RT @wespeechies: Imagine a world where practice is always theoretically sound, evidence based or both. #WeSpeechies http://t.co/IUS0EXlBqF
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RT @MacNaomi: I'm finding this very amusing that the term 'controversial' is turning out to be 'controversial' in itself! #wespeechies
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@KelleyBabcock @wespeechies @flackp1 Yes, this, absolutely! Twitter #wespeechies and #slpeeps have inspired me greatly!
nikkiheyman
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@debbyedelstein sorry couldn’t be there last night. Have a look at #Twitterchat format from #wespeechies Quite nice with Q & A refs
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RT @wespeechies: Imagine a world where practice is always theoretically sound, evidence based or both. #WeSpeechies http://t.co/IUS0EXlBqF
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RT @wespeechies: Imagine a world where practice is always theoretically sound, evidence based or both. #WeSpeechies http://t.co/IUS0EXlBqF
kamigoto
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@CrissXAppleSaus @wespeechies Haha! I hear a lot of this too! #wespeechies
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RT @flackp1: @wespeechies perhaps ignorance is bliss? Don't think its knowingly, just “unquestioningly” #WeSpeechies
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RT @aesharp: @wespeechies hi, arrived a bit late! #WeSpeechies
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RT @MacNaomi: @wespeechies thank you. that was my initial thought, but thought best to clarify. as to the answer… #WeSpeechies
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RT @wespeechies: Imagine a world where practice is always theoretically sound, evidence based or both. #WeSpeechies http://t.co/IUS0EXlBqF
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Thanks for the great chat @speech_woman ! another international representation on a highly relevant topic for many #SLPeeps ^bh #WeSpeechies
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MT @CrissXAppleSaus: @Kamigoto #wespeechies Just because it got written down, it's somehow gospel, and CANNOT BE CHANGED or CHALLENGED EVER.
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@CrissXAppleSaus @wespeechies P1 I like the response 'we'll leave it in just incase' when I say it's not a priority/concern #wespeechies
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RT @wespeechies: Imagine a world where practice is always theoretically sound, evidence based or both. #WeSpeechies http://t.co/IUS0EXlBqF
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@CrissXAppleSaus @wespeechies P2 WHY INSIST I COME TO THE MEETING THEN?? #wespeechies
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This seems appropriate advice to the new #wespeechies in subordinate pos! RT @drhappy Do the best you can with what you've got where you are
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RT @wespeechies: MT @CrissXAppleSaus: @Kamigoto #wespeechies Just because it got written down, it's somehow gospel, and CANNOT BE CHANGED or CHALLENGED EVER.
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. @BronwynHemsley Might you run the encore controversial practices #WeSpeechies chat to give it a different slant or would you prefer me to?
speechwoman
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I must say, @BronwynHemsley in terms of numbers of #WeSpeechies #SLPeeps #SLP2b/s & overall population, AU and NZ punch above their weight!
kelleybabcock
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RT @MacNaomi: This seems appropriate advice to the new #wespeechies in subordinate pos! RT @drhappy Do the best you can with what you've got where you are
meganleece
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@wespeechies A2 Not big controversy but turning tide re: sp sound d/o elig criteria based only on Std Score #wespeechies #sorryI'matwork
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Gutted I missed #WeSpeechies chat on v. personally relevant topic 2nite. Enjoying catching up on discussion though!
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Can you say WHERE, @meganleece? Ignore if the topic is too delicate for Twitter.Sounds worrying to me(as a bit of an SSD buff). #WeSpeechies
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RT @wespeechies: Imagine a world where practice is always theoretically sound, evidence based or both. #WeSpeechies http://t.co/IUS0EXlBqF
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Controversial. #WeSpeechies http://t.co/me1vIuHmeT
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Controversy. #WeSpeechies http://t.co/2OwwCQ6gl9
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RT @wespeechies: Imagine a world where practice is always theoretically sound, evidence based or both. #WeSpeechies http://t.co/IUS0EXlBqF
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@wespeechies SLPs generally not at fault. Need for educating those making elig decision (psych, municipality) They expect SS #wespeechies
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@MacNaomi protected research time would be fab. The argument is SLPs are already taking home paperwork nightly due to high #s. #wespeechies
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@PamelaSnow2 I'll rephrase! Practitioners don't knowingly administer ineffective, time-wasting treatment, do they, or DO they? #WeSpeechies
crissxapplesaus
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@mtmarySLP @wespeechies @meganleece A2 Related: High minutes to high needs/low progress, not enough to quick artic/dismissal. #wespeechies
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MT @PamelaSnow2: "Knowing" not as B&W as we'd like it to be,leaves room for “believing" Epidemiol data vs anecdote often tricky #WeSpeechies
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Why so many unread emails? Ahh... the #wespeechies chat... time to change twitter settings!
speechwoman
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RT @MacNaomi: Why so many unread emails? Ahh... the #wespeechies chat... time to change twitter settings!
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RT @wespeechies: Imagine a world where practice is always theoretically sound, evidence based or both. #WeSpeechies http://t.co/IUS0EXlBqF
kiaya_speaks
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Anyone know of a speechie in Melbourne in need of extra hands? Looking to do some volunteer work. #SLP2B #wespeechies
speechteach63
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RT @SusanDMunro: SLT Claire Goodwin aka @bake_therapist competing in the forthcoming series of #GBBO14 - good luck Claire #WeSpeechies have many talents
aileenwrightul
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@wespeechies Limerick here Sorry to miss chat Making some progress here but Nsome still happening Lots of sensory integration #wespeechies
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RT @wespeechies: My daughter @SarahBScotty used the Access To Work Scheme to enable her to work part time in a school, despite her #aphasia. #WeSpeechies
aileenwrightul
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@wespeechies we have had some success introducing more phon tx by giving free cpd sessions locally #wespeechies
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